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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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BlowOff Valve: Have Recirc or Move MAF sensor

ok so heres the deal. me and my friend have been aruging over this.
He says if you have a turbo putting in a blowoff without a recirc will make the engine run rich, i said this is only the case because the MAF sensor is behind the blow valve and will give a false reading. He said its better not to have a valve at all which i said is just plain stupid if you plan on having a big turbo and for long term use and opt performance.
My solution is you can have a recirc at 50-50 and move the MAF sensor after the valve for opt performance. ofcourse he doesnt think so. I ask my fellow evo enthusiast for their wisdom or a better solution
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Leave recirculated. The MAF is programed to be in its location. Moving it will disrupt the readings it will see - aka, car will run like crap.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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so even if you reprogrammed the ECU and then moved the MAF it would still run rich or lean?
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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What are we talking about moving, the maf or bov???
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:21 PM
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Installing a BOV and then moving the MAF sensor after the BOV so the car wont run rich.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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like putting the MAF right before the TB....

if it goes there then you dont get proper Air Temps...and it will be boosted air....witch will probably blow up the MAF.....so moving it after the turbo would be kinda dumb.
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Actually people have been successfully putting a GM 3" blow through MAF with MAF-Translator to do exactly what the OP wants to do, run BOV VTA and be able to fine tune so as not to run rich or lean. The stock MAF is not designed to run as a blow through and would not survive long if it was able to be configured that way.

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 06:16 AM
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you can not use the stock MAF as a blow threw set-up, you would need another MAF.

im runnning a VTA Tial Bov and the car runs fine, but does buck sometimes. but never stalls.

and with a VTA Bov the car goes rich when you shift, thats it.
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 07:05 AM
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ok so basically my options are 1) run a recirc and leave the stock MAF in. 2) replace the stock MAF with one that can handle the boost wit a translator 2) or jus completely remove the MAF and use an ecu like AEM and program it for speed density? correct me if im wrong still tryin to remember this its been awhile
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that sounds about right...
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 09:32 AM
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ok thanks
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:43 AM
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dejon has a uicp that can run vented bovs with no loss or running rich.........rquires small battery kit i believe though
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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how do you have no loss with a BOV???? is the battery there to power a motor to create pressure or something?
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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dejon has a uicp that can run vented bovs with no loss or running rich.........rquires small battery kit i believe though
That's not possible unless the signal to the ECU is being modified. HKS made some sort of add on box, forgot what it was called, that would allow you to run VTA by leaning the car out right after each shift.

Still, its a hackneyed way to do things IMO. I would not run a ricer VTA signal box or GM blow thru or VTA on an Evo.
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
That's not possible unless the signal to the ECU is being modified. HKS made some sort of add on box, forgot what it was called, that would allow you to run VTA by leaning the car out right after each shift.

Still, its a hackneyed way to do things IMO. I would not run a ricer VTA signal box or GM blow thru or VTA on an Evo.
i think its called the EIDS...ive ran vta with a greddy type s and never really had any probs
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