FP Red failure
Just another Garrett chra bites the dust. Nothing new here. Stick to journal bearing heavy industry turbos, such as Mitsu and Borg Warner and Holset. Show one of those turbos failing, and I'll show you a liar.

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Typically a customer would contact the company, send in the part, and find out what caused the failure before broadcasting it on the internet. There are any number of causes for the symptoms you describe. If it was a product failure, FP has a well deserved reputation for taking care of their customers in those circumstances.
How did you determine what caused the damage to the fins in the exhaust side of the turbo?
How did you determine what caused the damage to the fins in the exhaust side of the turbo?
Im only trying to see if anybody else has had this same problem.
I'm not picking at you, but if the turbine wheel is moving INTO the housing, would that not make the compressor wheel be moving OUT into the compressor housing, which you said was undamaged?
The only reason I saw that it was damaged was because I took the hotside off. Otherwise it looks perfect with it on.

Ups just picked up my turbo. I will post an update as soon as I hear from FP.
(fingers crossed)
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To the OP sorry for the bad luck but I'm sure if you contact FP they will help you figure out what it is and get you a replacement if it is a failure on there part.
Josh
Last edited by jmelocik; Apr 7, 2009 at 05:01 PM.
It may still be MHI journal bearings, but if the turbine shaft is larger, did they swap out or just machine the bearings? Also are they incorporating the stock MHI 360* thrust bearing? It does have a new turbine wheel, so there is a good possibility that the internals may not be factory MHI anymore. I still pretty much agree with his statement of Borg/Warner and Holset...I've never seen one have in and out shaft play. It's a shame more Evo guys don't jump into a HX35/HX40 hybrid, it's a wicked combo that gives the 3586r a big run for the money, and costs well under half the price.
Either way good luck, that pretty much cements my decision for a BBK for the time being.
Either way good luck, that pretty much cements my decision for a BBK for the time being.
Holsett HX-40's have, in fact, been known to suffer shaft failures, due to innadequate oil feed passages in the center housing, in spite of your claim to the contrary. There is a notable tendency to speculate and make dubious accusations in this particular thread. There is a lot of firing from the hip!
Last edited by sparky; Apr 7, 2009 at 05:40 PM.
It may still be MHI journal bearings, but if the turbine shaft is larger, did they swap out or just machine the bearings? Also are they incorporating the stock MHI 360* thrust bearing? It does have a new turbine wheel, so there is a good possibility that the internals may not be factory MHI anymore.
Either way good luck, that pretty much cements my decision for a BBK for the time being.
Either way good luck, that pretty much cements my decision for a BBK for the time being.





