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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 07:50 AM
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Turbo info for beginners...

Can we get some broken down information for those who are looking for aftermarket turbos or custom turbos and don't know what to look for, how to explain what they want or what models/numbers mean
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:34 AM
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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What happened to doing the research BEFORE buying the vehicle???

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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 09:29 AM
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go read the other thread you posted about this topic....
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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Thats a start. Most of the other stuff comes from a lot of reading and time. Its not something you can pick up in a week, thats for sure. Just read all the turbo related threads in this section, and check out turbo sites online. When you get a better grasp on things feel free to ask more questions.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 03nevaevolution
Can we get some broken down information for those who are looking for aftermarket turbos or custom turbos and don't know what to look for, how to explain what they want or what models/numbers mean
Well it depends what exactly you are looking for, but basically there are a few hot options right now for aftermarket turbos (not in any given order):

(1) FP Green
(2) BBK Full
(3) Tomei ARMs
(4) FP Red
(5) GT30R of varying configurations
(6) GT35 (HTA) of varying configurations
(7) GT35+ (e.g. 37R, 42R, etc.)

For cars that are street cars / autox / road race, most seem to feel (1, 2, and 3 are the best). For cars that are drag / road race cars, the FP Red and the GT35 variants seem to be the ticket, but generally shine under high boost applications and have power bands that come in around 5K rpm. I don't see many going the GT30 route now with the success of 1, 2, and 3...

I believe your original question was centered around what does AR mean and how do you select the proper AR. There is a wealth of information on the web (Garret has some great info) but it will take quite a bit of reading.

Start with this URL and the various topics within: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ch_center.html
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cij911
Well it depends what exactly you are looking for, but basically there are a few hot options right now for aftermarket turbos (not in any given order):

(1) FP Green
(2) BBK Full
(3) Tomei ARMs
(4) FP Red
(5) GT30R of varying configurations
(6) GT35 (HTA) of varying configurations
(7) GT35+ (e.g. 37R, 42R, etc.)

For cars that are street cars / autox / road race, most seem to feel (1, 2, and 3 are the best). For cars that are drag / road race cars, the FP Red and the GT35 variants seem to be the ticket, but generally shine under high boost applications and have power bands that come in around 5K rpm. I don't see many going the GT30 route now with the success of 1, 2, and 3...

I believe your original question was centered around what does AR mean and how do you select the proper AR. There is a wealth of information on the web (Garret has some great info) but it will take quite a bit of reading.

Start with this URL and the various topics within: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ch_center.html
I have to agree, those seem to be the only turbo's to buy. Or working with the stock evo9 turbo. Im surprised more people havnt gone with an HTA30R, but it is rather pricey.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cij911
Well it depends what exactly you are looking for, but basically there are a few hot options right now for aftermarket turbos (not in any given order):

(1) FP Green
(2) BBK Full
(3) Tomei ARMs
(4) FP Red
(5) GT30R of varying configurations
(6) GT35 (HTA) of varying configurations
(7) GT35+ (e.g. 37R, 42R, etc.)

For cars that are street cars / autox / road race, most seem to feel (1, 2, and 3 are the best). For cars that are drag / road race cars, the FP Red and the GT35 variants seem to be the ticket, but generally shine under high boost applications and have power bands that come in around 5K rpm. I don't see many going the GT30 route now with the success of 1, 2, and 3...

I believe your original question was centered around what does AR mean and how do you select the proper AR. There is a wealth of information on the web (Garret has some great info) but it will take quite a bit of reading.

Start with this URL and the various topics within: http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...ch_center.html
great post, thanks!
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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I have to agree, those seem to be the only turbo's to buy. Or working with the stock evo9 turbo. Im surprised more people havnt gone with an HTA30R, but it is rather pricey.
they fp red turbos seem a little pricey to me. id much rather get a gt35r with that kinda money
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmeurorlude
they fp red turbos seem a little pricey to me. id much rather get a gt35r with that kinda money
You can get the turbo for the same price but the Garrett turbos don't just bolt on you need a manifold, oil lines, water lines, downpipe, and boost tubes to mate up with the intercooler.

So more often than not the bolt on units though pricey are a better deal for most people.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
You can get the turbo for the same price but the Garrett turbos don't just bolt on you need a manifold, oil lines, water lines, downpipe, and boost tubes to mate up with the intercooler.

So more often than not the bolt on units though pricey are a better deal for most people.
very true, it seems to be a great set-up dont get me wrong, i just think its a little high for a stocker. but to be honest if itll make over 550whp then its something definatly worth considering once i get my evo
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jdmeurorlude
very true, it seems to be a great set-up dont get me wrong, i just think its a little high for a stocker. but to be honest if itll make over 550whp then its something definatly worth considering once i get my evo
Wasn't one of the red's able to do that?

I'm sure that's not average but honestly i think the turbo is hard to beat now that it has an optional 3 inch anti surge housing option.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadSpike
Wasn't one of the red's able to do that?

I'm sure that's not average but honestly i think the turbo is hard to beat now that it has an optional 3 inch anti surge housing option.
my only complaint about the red is it seems to need ~28+psi of boost to shine. For an owner with a built motor, e85 setups, or meth that might be fine. But if you plan to run pump gas, stock internals, the red may not be the best choice.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Thanks for just about all the responses in this thread! The thread wasn't for me, I know what I wanted and what I got! The purpose of the thread was for those with more knowledge to make things simple or easier for turbo novices. I did my research and it was alot to deal with and research, to include the link that McLaren left, which only talks about stock turbos for the most part. The way that thread is set up is more to what I was expecting in here, but thanks again for the helpful information that was given. Evo up!!

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Old May 22, 2009 | 01:51 AM
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the best place that i found is this: (http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html)
this breaks it down to a simple concept beginner or not. hope it helped!
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