I am new to forced induction. With that said, need to understand what it is I would be buyin here, if I were to barter for this little object listed below. I have a 2004 EVO 8, stock Turbo, but upgraded Complete exhaust that bolts to the stock turbo mounting. I would like to keep the sotck turbo mounting, but some how get a little more out of the turbo?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=270362032224


Thank you in advance.

 

do a little more searching but ill help you. your car still have alot of potential without upgrading the turbo compressor side. what you can do is complete the bolts on. for example, cams, bigger i/c pipping(lower and upper), bigger front mount, walbro pump, mbc, etc...

 

and if the vessel I commondeer is already at that perfomrance level, minus maybe one or two parts... then? Is this a worthy upgrade, that will bolt to current application, ...Stock turbo both sides, etc.

 

Huh? I dont really get what you are saying, but post a mod-list of your current set-up maybe i will understand and can help you out better.

 

...yup, ...hold on just a minute, let me gat the flame retardent race suit on here...

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ok, complete turbo rookie. Like a baby looking at a... calculus.
Sounds crazy, I know. I dont understand what part I am looking at.
Is it the exhaust side, or the intake side...?
Which ever side it is, does it bolt up to the opposite piece that I have, if those pieces bolt up to stock now...?
What does it do..., I think question 1 or two will answer, but just incase, ...remember complete newb here... I know fundamental... exhaust spin, wheel turn, blower blow, car go go.... hense vessel, cuz we ridin on wind power

edit: Iasked the sellar this too, It's the compressor side, so that is the side fed from the exhaust, or is that the side that goes to the intake? This is why I am lost, thanks in advance.

 

bump for the turbo idiot...

 

My goodness my man...you are in for a world of new learning and surprises....the compressor side is the intake side because that is where the air is compressed and sent through your engine via lower intercooler piping, intercooler, upper intercooler piping and then through the throttle body, intake mani and then your intake side of the head.....whew...now google turbo theory of operation lol...your exhaust gases turn the turbine side of your turbo..also known as the hot side for obvious reasons. The compresor and turbine side are connected via the center section where your thrust bearing is..think of like a pin wheel. You got lots to learn and I would suggest learning the basics before you start purchasing parts...trust me I was there 10 years ago lol. good luck man..its a big ocean out there!

 

+1 lOL!!! Damn, couldn't have said it any better!!! Hell yeah.....!!!

 

I understand the concept of the turbo, just dont understand all the pieces to the asembly, to know what orientation I am looking at. Thats all. I know the concepts. Just never owned one, or had one in front of me to tear into and tinker with...

Thanks again guys. Anyone know if this is a good upgrade, what am i actually upgrading? Just the compressor wheel.... THe ebay guys states it bolts up good and is a drop in replacement for the current housing on my turbo. So is this equivelent to doing the nine swap?


edit: Tony did you run firebird there in sept or oct 2008. the one that got cancelled after about 3-4 hours due to rain. I was there, only had Cali plates on my bone stock evo at the time...

 

i would just get a 9 turbo instead....but like people said before me.....learn about the car first....you have alot of parts you gota get as supporting mods you cant just get a big turbo and slap it on and hope everything works good....you have to build you way around it...

 

And if my car hypothetically were to have all that?
only other upgrades is internal(cams),block/head, turbo, or meth

I thought after reading several post, most people were in support of an easy or quick upgrade to the EVO 8 was by doing the 9 turbo swap, or the partial part, which if I understand correctly is this part I was looking at. Understand that tuning is needed, will have that done right after I get done bolting this little do hicky up...if it is a safe upgrade.
From a flow standpoint, since I have raced in various circuits for the last 15 years, all n/a cars, I have read up on Turbo cars and the difference from each car as to how it uses exhaust scavaging or does not use it. From a low standpoint, she is ready for these parts, slight turbo upgrade, cams/springs, port/polish head, block/pistons...

I have read about the cams currently, some are snapping on the intake. Most say it is only with the nine... Some say there have been a few with the eights. I have Cossi's 272's in mind. I was looking at a full head build, but don't have the cash. Won't really rebuilt bottome end until it is needed. And some on here was about to throw a fp red on 85,000.

My point is, I am getting the feeling that this upgrade is a power increase, but not so bad as to be more sophisticated, or complicated to get it to work. I want a part that will accenuate the build later yes, but I want mostly to be on a stock turbo, if slightly moderated to be the max. Plenty of 500 AWD monsters pushing that on stock ecu, and stock turbo.

Can any one comment on what I would gain from this, or point out things to watch out for. THis is a 8 housing, honed/bored to take a 20G impeller/propeller.

Thank you

 

You would want to atleast have your ECU flashed for max benefits and some minor fuel sys upgrades as well...ie larger injectors and a fuel pump upgrade....i might have run at Firebird then, can't remeber..small world huh? BTW UPS has my new turbo in SLC right now lol

 

lol...yah, gota love seeing it so close, yet so far away...
Fuel pump is a check there. What size injectors should I get to reach the 400 AWHP, all things assuming other parts are there.

 

I would say like a minimum 650cc...depends on what fuel you plan on running...if you have E85 nearby, I would run 1000cc.

 

Im assuming you can scale oversized injectors back, say if I by the 1000's, I can scale them back to 650's to 750's and up as I build more...?