worth porting a 10.5 housing?
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worth porting a 10.5 housing?
worth porting a 10.5 housing? will be going on a ported mani and better O2
i've got a new 10.5 housing and before fitting thought i'd ask?
i saw some diy porting posts with pics any links to them?
i've got a new 10.5 housing and before fitting thought i'd ask?
i saw some diy porting posts with pics any links to them?
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ok thx
did i see someone completely removed the rib in the wastegate hole?
i'd like to fettle it a little but i'm sure its there for strengthing i've many other turbo's with cracks around the hole and maybe this brace is to prevent that?
still can't find thoses pics i have searched
did i see someone completely removed the rib in the wastegate hole?
i'd like to fettle it a little but i'm sure its there for strengthing i've many other turbo's with cracks around the hole and maybe this brace is to prevent that?
still can't find thoses pics i have searched
Last edited by leecavturbo; Apr 26, 2009 at 02:24 PM.
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ok thx
did i see someone completely removed the rib in the wastegate hole?
i'd like to fettle it a little but i'm sure its there for strengthing i've many other turbo's with cracks around the hole and maybe this brace is to prevent that?
still can't find thoses pics i have searched
did i see someone completely removed the rib in the wastegate hole?
i'd like to fettle it a little but i'm sure its there for strengthing i've many other turbo's with cracks around the hole and maybe this brace is to prevent that?
still can't find thoses pics i have searched
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why would boost be reduced surely i'd just need less duty cycle on my ebc
if more gas can flow wastegate wise?
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Definately.
I did a back to back, oem hotside/exh. mani & saw decent gains. i have a evo 8 & cams were cosi m2's @ -2in/-1ex.
it all works together.
i have a 3" dp/o2 housing combo....
i highly recomend a invidia o2 housing
these are the gains that i saw...I had to turn the boost down, via the ebc, but i ran out of range with my solenoid....I installed the hotside with the same preload!!
The boost response is amazing & you just feel the turbo spool up during city driving a lot better. Honestly, i noticed a difference just driving away going for the initial test spin
here is a 3rd gear spool up compare of my oem evo9 vs ported evo9 vs ported fp-grn. wot portion started @ 2500 rpm for ALL 3 pulls, same road, same fuel load, similar ambient conditions
I did a back to back, oem hotside/exh. mani & saw decent gains. i have a evo 8 & cams were cosi m2's @ -2in/-1ex.
it all works together.
i have a 3" dp/o2 housing combo....
i highly recomend a invidia o2 housing
these are the gains that i saw...I had to turn the boost down, via the ebc, but i ran out of range with my solenoid....I installed the hotside with the same preload!!
The boost response is amazing & you just feel the turbo spool up during city driving a lot better. Honestly, i noticed a difference just driving away going for the initial test spin
here is a 3rd gear spool up compare of my oem evo9 vs ported evo9 vs ported fp-grn. wot portion started @ 2500 rpm for ALL 3 pulls, same road, same fuel load, similar ambient conditions
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hope it helps, it helped me, i ported hot side on my 10.5 and my exhaust mani
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OP: I used to think that by boring out the turbine bypass port, that is eliminating the center wall in the bypass port passage, I could improve flow out through the bypass port.
However, I learned here on EvoM that this wouldn't be a very good idea at all. Since the 16G turbo is a twinscroll design which divorces exhaust gas pulsations. By eliminating the divisory wall in the turbine housing's wastegate bypass port you would be defeating the twinscroll design concept by creating exhaust gas reversion from one side across into the other.
The most you can do to improve exhaust gas flow out though the turbine bypass port is to open up the entrances to the bypass port by easing the tight radius into the bypass port in the turbine inlet area of the housing. You can't really increase the diameter of the port at the wastegate puck because it is already pretty much optimized as cast and you would risk leakage because the flapper valve has a bit of horizontal play across the seat.
However, I learned here on EvoM that this wouldn't be a very good idea at all. Since the 16G turbo is a twinscroll design which divorces exhaust gas pulsations. By eliminating the divisory wall in the turbine housing's wastegate bypass port you would be defeating the twinscroll design concept by creating exhaust gas reversion from one side across into the other.
The most you can do to improve exhaust gas flow out though the turbine bypass port is to open up the entrances to the bypass port by easing the tight radius into the bypass port in the turbine inlet area of the housing. You can't really increase the diameter of the port at the wastegate puck because it is already pretty much optimized as cast and you would risk leakage because the flapper valve has a bit of horizontal play across the seat.
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Yeah, if the WG side as he calls it flows better, then it follows that turbine bypass flow should improve. Yes, the WG's sole job is to"reduce" turbine rotational velocity by bleeding off exhaust gases before they hit the turbine blades. The resultant reduction in shaft speed slows the compressor wheel thus reducing boost pressure.
So, he hasn't really reinvented the wheel. When the wastegate opens, it is supposed to "reduce boost", duh.
So, he hasn't really reinvented the wheel. When the wastegate opens, it is supposed to "reduce boost", duh.
Last edited by sparky; Apr 26, 2009 at 09:26 PM.