the right turbo for a 2.3L stroker
i have built a car for my friend using a buschur 2.3 and an HTA35R Cast mani kit from buschur...and the car turned out so responsive and enjoyable to drive....feels almost like a stock turbo however gets crazier as the rpm climbs rather than start dying out on top rpms
We ran a 6262 on a 2.3L we did here on an employees car and no lie it felt just shy of FP Red like Spool.. The spool was near instant.. The top end was strong right to 8500 also..
MIke
MIke
ugh, again many posts- sorry that i could not log in during the weekend. So yeah I could have mentioned that I prefer a bolt-on turbo to a external wastegated one. Saying this I still would go for a garrett if I get proof that it is what I need. So to sum up right now I am thinking the Tomei ARMS or the FP-RED or a 3071R. To be honest I am a little affraid of the 3076R as I dont really believe that it could achieve 1.4-1.5 bar boost under 4k. If anyone has a dyno chart running a 3076r then please link that to this post- I would really appreciate that!
Today I took back the car to the tuner, we could finaly eliminate some fuel pressure problems caused by an old FP and a dissolved pipe. Interesting though that we could not achieve any more HP, but we gained a lot of low end torque.
The car is now running at 1.5 bar boost in the low-mid rpm area, and tapers out to 1.35 bar nearing 6k rev. I am really satisfied the results and I am aware that this little stock evo 9-16G turbo just cant do more.
see this chart:
Today I took back the car to the tuner, we could finaly eliminate some fuel pressure problems caused by an old FP and a dissolved pipe. Interesting though that we could not achieve any more HP, but we gained a lot of low end torque.
The car is now running at 1.5 bar boost in the low-mid rpm area, and tapers out to 1.35 bar nearing 6k rev. I am really satisfied the results and I am aware that this little stock evo 9-16G turbo just cant do more.
see this chart:
Seriously, do not get a 3071R. It is not a significant enough improvement over stock to warrant the expense, let alone the performance issues. Give me some time, I'll put together a dynochart comparison for you of various turbo setups that I have compiled over the years.
l8r)
l8r)
Here you go, comparisons of various AMS turbo kits that I have compiled. I've also included one of my old stock turbo dynos, although that pull was in 4th gear, a 3rd gear pull would not have spooled quite that early. As you can see the 50trim pwned the 3071R in all aspects. The original AMS 35R kit on a 2.3 spools slightly earlier than my 50Trim on a 2.0 (I hit 24-25 psi by 3800 or earlier, depending on gear). Substitute an HTA3582R on the 2.3 and it should spool even earlier. Heck even on a 2.0, the HTA3582R isn't that far behind my old 50Trim setup and is actually spot-on where the 3071R used to spool up at. If I were to substitute a 3076R for my 50 trim, it should spool up the same and make a little bit more torque up top.

You now have as much data as I can give you in terms of roughly equivalent dyno plots. Hopefully this will help you to make an informed decision.
l8r)

You now have as much data as I can give you in terms of roughly equivalent dyno plots. Hopefully this will help you to make an informed decision.
l8r)
Last edited by Ludikraut; Jun 8, 2009 at 06:49 PM.
I'm looking to get a turbo upgrade as well, i would like to make 650awhp but i don't want to much lag, i used for drag and highway drive. this is my config.
2.3L Eagle Stroker kit 0.40
2.0 Liter I4 Turbo INJEN Intake and charge pipe
Stock Turbo with FQ400 Mitsubishi Titanium Wheel Upgrade Turbo (it will be changed with GT3540 .82)
Dynoflash Reflash ECU (stock ECU has been removed) to install AEM EMS
Buschur Full Race Intercooler
Buschur Turbo Out Pipe
Greedy 3” EVO exhaust
Cat Delete resonator
HKS 272 Cams
HKS Twin Power Ignition Amplifier
Ralliart Plug Wires
Works Throttle Body
WR Engine Torque Stiffner
XS Tube Header
GFB Blow off Valve
HBC Manual Boost Controller (It will be removed) To allow the Perrin solenoid to controlled
HKS Idle Stabilizer (It will be removed) to allow Aem ems to controlled
APEXI Turbo Timer
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Optima Red Battery
Perrin boost controller Solenoid
Fidanza Cam Gears
External inline Walbro 255 Pump (fuel pump will run inline along with the in tank pump in the same time, but fuel line will be -8AN from tank to fuel rail)
Inline Fuel Filter TFX 40 micron 8-AN 300psi
AEM EMS
Aquamist HFS-5 Methanol Injection
880cc Delphi injector
Obx Fuel rail
MagnaFuel EFI Fuel Pressure Control Units 35-85 psi
BC Exhaust valve+1mm. O.S.
BC Intake Valve +1mm. O.S.
BC Spring Set
ARP Head Studs
Oil Catch Can
38mm. Tial external Wastegate 1.1 Bar
Balance Shaft eliminator kit
Gates Racing timing belt
Aluminum Harmonic balancer
2.3L Eagle Stroker kit 0.40
2.0 Liter I4 Turbo INJEN Intake and charge pipe
Stock Turbo with FQ400 Mitsubishi Titanium Wheel Upgrade Turbo (it will be changed with GT3540 .82)
Dynoflash Reflash ECU (stock ECU has been removed) to install AEM EMS
Buschur Full Race Intercooler
Buschur Turbo Out Pipe
Greedy 3” EVO exhaust
Cat Delete resonator
HKS 272 Cams
HKS Twin Power Ignition Amplifier
Ralliart Plug Wires
Works Throttle Body
WR Engine Torque Stiffner
XS Tube Header
GFB Blow off Valve
HBC Manual Boost Controller (It will be removed) To allow the Perrin solenoid to controlled
HKS Idle Stabilizer (It will be removed) to allow Aem ems to controlled
APEXI Turbo Timer
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Optima Red Battery
Perrin boost controller Solenoid
Fidanza Cam Gears
External inline Walbro 255 Pump (fuel pump will run inline along with the in tank pump in the same time, but fuel line will be -8AN from tank to fuel rail)
Inline Fuel Filter TFX 40 micron 8-AN 300psi
AEM EMS
Aquamist HFS-5 Methanol Injection
880cc Delphi injector
Obx Fuel rail
MagnaFuel EFI Fuel Pressure Control Units 35-85 psi
BC Exhaust valve+1mm. O.S.
BC Intake Valve +1mm. O.S.
BC Spring Set
ARP Head Studs
Oil Catch Can
38mm. Tial external Wastegate 1.1 Bar
Balance Shaft eliminator kit
Gates Racing timing belt
Aluminum Harmonic balancer
Last edited by crisdiarata; Jul 1, 2009 at 07:37 PM.
I believe a gt35 .82 is the one I'll choose
I'm looking to get a turbo upgrade as well, i would like to make 650awhp but i don't want to much lag, i used for drag and highway drive. this is my config.
2.3L Eagle Stroker kit 0.40
2.0 Liter I4 Turbo INJEN Intake and charge pipe
Stock Turbo with FQ400 Mitsubishi Titanium Wheel Upgrade Turbo (it will be changed with GT3540 .82)
Dynoflash Reflash ECU (stock ECU has been removed) to install AEM EMS
Buschur Full Race Intercooler
Buschur Turbo Out Pipe
Greedy 3” EVO exhaust
Cat Delete resonator
HKS 272 Cams
HKS Twin Power Ignition Amplifier
Ralliart Plug Wires
Works Throttle Body
WR Engine Torque Stiffner
XS Tube Header
GFB Blow off Valve
HBC Manual Boost Controller (It will be removed) To allow the Perrin solenoid to controlled
HKS Idle Stabilizer (It will be removed) to allow Aem ems to controlled
APEXI Turbo Timer
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Optima Red Battery
Perrin boost controller Solenoid
Fidanza Cam Gears
External inline Walbro 255 Pump (fuel pump will run inline along with the in tank pump in the same time, but fuel line will be -8AN from tank to fuel rail)
Inline Fuel Filter TFX 40 micron 8-AN 300psi
AEM EMS
Aquamist HFS-5 Methanol Injection
880cc Delphi injector
Obx Fuel rail
MagnaFuel EFI Fuel Pressure Control Units 35-85 psi
BC Exhaust valve+1mm. O.S.
BC Intake Valve +1mm. O.S.
BC Spring Set
ARP Head Studs
Oil Catch Can
38mm. Tial external Wastegate 1.1 Bar
Balance Shaft eliminator kit
Gates Racing timing belt
Aluminum Harmonic balancer
2.3L Eagle Stroker kit 0.40
2.0 Liter I4 Turbo INJEN Intake and charge pipe
Stock Turbo with FQ400 Mitsubishi Titanium Wheel Upgrade Turbo (it will be changed with GT3540 .82)
Dynoflash Reflash ECU (stock ECU has been removed) to install AEM EMS
Buschur Full Race Intercooler
Buschur Turbo Out Pipe
Greedy 3” EVO exhaust
Cat Delete resonator
HKS 272 Cams
HKS Twin Power Ignition Amplifier
Ralliart Plug Wires
Works Throttle Body
WR Engine Torque Stiffner
XS Tube Header
GFB Blow off Valve
HBC Manual Boost Controller (It will be removed) To allow the Perrin solenoid to controlled
HKS Idle Stabilizer (It will be removed) to allow Aem ems to controlled
APEXI Turbo Timer
Walbro 255 Fuel Pump
Optima Red Battery
Perrin boost controller Solenoid
Fidanza Cam Gears
External inline Walbro 255 Pump (fuel pump will run inline along with the in tank pump in the same time, but fuel line will be -8AN from tank to fuel rail)
Inline Fuel Filter TFX 40 micron 8-AN 300psi
AEM EMS
Aquamist HFS-5 Methanol Injection
880cc Delphi injector
Obx Fuel rail
MagnaFuel EFI Fuel Pressure Control Units 35-85 psi
BC Exhaust valve+1mm. O.S.
BC Intake Valve +1mm. O.S.
BC Spring Set
ARP Head Studs
Oil Catch Can
38mm. Tial external Wastegate 1.1 Bar
Balance Shaft eliminator kit
Gates Racing timing belt
Aluminum Harmonic balancer


