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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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When is it time to upgrade from the stock ignition?

Hey guys,

I'm almost done with my 2.3 build, but theres a few little odds and ends I'm working out before I swap the motor in. My goal with this motor is 550-600awhp. I plan on attempting this on the stock ecu. Everything I have has tested to make well over 600awhp except the stock ignition system. Has anyone done that? I searched for 30 minutes and found nothing.

This is my weekend car so all this will be done on 93oct or q/c16. Thought please!

James
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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I'm a believer in upgrading if needed, or if it provides additional increase in power. If the OEM ignition is working OK and you meet your 600 whp goal. Then great.

If ignition breaks up at high rpms, or high load, with plugs gapped at 0.020", then you need to upgrade the ignition.

IOW, if it ain't' broke don't fix it. Spend you money on something you "need"!

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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 10:46 AM
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i have my stock ignition and wires with 610 hp on 100 octane.but i have an AEM EMS..i rev my motor over 8600 rpm without a problem....(knock on wood) lol..
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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I'm only looking to rev to 8k. Do you think aem ems helps with keeping the stock ignition from breaking up at higher load?
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 11:47 AM
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Hks Dli2 works great =)
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by staatz
Hks Dli2 works great =)
I agree. Al at ICS seems to have great success with it, but for me; I just assume spend the extra bit of cash on a spark tech or buschur setup and do it the best way.

I guess the only way to know for sure is to just get nice plugs, and see if it does or doesn't break up under load. Doesn't seem like there's a deffinitive answer to this question.
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 02:08 PM
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i only had 8k miles on my stock coils and wires, and i was breaking up around 520awhp at like 28lbs. used sparktechs ignition with cdi box and made 580 on 34lbs.

aem ecu tuned by buschur
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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I think the question should be... How much power are you giving up on the stock ignition with that tiny gap?
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Rgith you are my friend... i have to change my plugs out every 3-4k running 26psi and meth.. gapping to .020

blows out very easy..
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by E VOL IX
Rgith you are my friend... i have to change my plugs out every 3-4k running 26psi and meth.. gapping to .020

blows out very easy..
Think the meth has anything to do with it?

I think I'm going to just man up and buy a spark tech cop system. I've heard good things, plus if i do that with all my current mods, all I have to do it turn up the boost and I'm good for A LOT more power
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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misfires...that's when it's time
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MOREPSiTEHBETT4
misfires...that's when it's time
Thanks for the useful input pause not.
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Old Jun 3, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Thanks for the useful input pause not.
too bad people are sheep and believe otherwise..the more you modify the more often you have problems, look at the heavily modified people; you are lying to yourself or plain delusional if you don't believe

(not saying anything against the sparktech product or buchur cop) less is more, when you have blow out..get a cop
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