It is for added safety, and a requirement for FP's warranty. The 73HTA Green retains the brass-steel journal bearing setup, whereas the Red/Black are a steel-steel bearing configuration. The steel-steel is a much more demanding bearing composition in regards to oil. There has been a few threads up discussing this recently.

You should not have a problem with the journal bearing on the Green, and I have heard very few failure rates to date. Mine was one of the only ones in my area (region) and it was due to too high of a shaft speed. Granted I was well over 500/500 with the little thing, so you can't ask for much more from such a small turbo. FP makes quality stuff, and they really take care of their customers.

 

^ Well the OP wanted to know if he needs this installation kit and I think we just confirmed he does. If for no other reason than to not void FP's warranty.

 

If the oil feed lines are required (for warranty/prevent pre-mature failures) for the Green, Red, Black then shouldn't it be included in the kit when purchasing an FP turbo? Just my 0.02 cents...

 

They are included with Red and Black.. Standard.. Then people complain they are required and already have one they bought from someone so its a lose lose situation..

Mike

 

Thanks for the info Mike. So no need for the HTA Green?

Sam

 

I always suggest it since i have seen the line kit with filter save a lot of turbos when the engine lets go or something happens that passes metal thru the oiling system.. I will check with FP tomorrow to see if its mandatory for the Green to keep your warranty..

Mike

 

I'd highly recommend getting the FP oil line regardless of turbo - FP HTA Green, BBK Full, or stock 9. FP has already documented how the stock oil line does not feed an adequate oil flow to the turbo under extreme conditions, so it seems silly to buy a great new turbo and not spend a little more for the oil line. Just my $0.02...

 

I agree with this completely. FP will probably say it is needed for warranty repairs, as if you are pushing the HTA Green and things go bad oil starvation could be an issue. They do not cover lack of lubrication in their warranty process, when they offer you a high pressure oil feed solution.

See the first listing on their website in terms of warranty coverage:
http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...o_TurboFailure

 

But why did they bump the price from 150 to 250 ?

 

+10 It makes no sense to spend thousands of dollars on a turbo and cheap out on the oil line, its insurance. I talked to Robert at Fp yesterday about the line and type of oil he recommends and he spelled it out for me. The red and black the line is required, no exceptions. Robert said for the green unless you will be operating the turbo at high rpms in excess of 20 mins it is not required, but a good idea, again why spend all the money on a new turbo and risk it. Robert said on his personal evo he runs an hta green with the upgraded line. I sent my turbo to fp yesterday for a conversion to the green and will be running the upgraded line even though the car will not be tracked or see over 26 psi. Would you drive your evo without full coverage insurance...

 

listen to FP... they test their theory time and time again... my BBK full lasted me under 2000miles... at 27 psi... It must be oiling... I was told it is because of boost leaks...
a boost pipe did come off a couple of times...but no leaks

 

My BBK failed too and Blouch blamed many things - bad motor, bad oil, leaks, etc...i hope Blouch / CBRD take care of you....

 

Interesting. Even though I usually do all my own work, I may let CBRD install my BBK-B so there is no chance of the blame game. Although with that turbo, it will have the upgraded bearings, lines, and pressure regulator. Keep us posted on how CBRD/Blouch took care of you guys. I always hear good things.

 

Chris,

come on, beating a dead horse.... you bought a turbo that was supposedly inspected by us, which never was, or there would be paperwork from Blouch who inspected it for us!

I think we covered this, it was an unfortunate position you were put in.....

the FP line is sized/restricted appropriately for their bearing packages, not ours.

regardess,

cheers

cb

 

Seeing you say that, I will send my turbo back...all the way from the tip of africa... I will strip it first and take photos, what is a post without some graphics...and lets see what theories evolve...

I can say that the bbk full did make the power, and it was very responsive.