Does anyone else here wish they had a gear between 4th and 5th?
Does anyone else here wish they had a gear between 4th and 5th?
Is it just me or do you guys have a problem with the big gap between 4th and 5th, gearing wise? Has anyone researched possibly importing a 6 speed or having someone stateside modify the 5 speed into accomodating a ratio between 4th and 5th?
I've had the car a week and this is my only gripe...the car NEEDS another, shorter gear between 4th and 5th...anyone been down this road yet or am I going it alone?
I've had the car a week and this is my only gripe...the car NEEDS another, shorter gear between 4th and 5th...anyone been down this road yet or am I going it alone?
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personally, I don't have a problem with it. When I'm cruising above 50 I put it into 5th and the gap doesn't seem that bad to me. I'd actually rather have a 6th gear for cruising over 70-80 to keep the rpms down
Hey, if you wanna cruise, get a Lexus. =-P
I mean, the first 4 gears are so tight together, it makes the 5th feel like crap when you upshift at 4k and acceleration takes a hike.
I'll let you guys know how/if I manage to get a 6 speed in this thing.
I mean, the first 4 gears are so tight together, it makes the 5th feel like crap when you upshift at 4k and acceleration takes a hike.
I'll let you guys know how/if I manage to get a 6 speed in this thing.
Well the fifth gear is in a way an overdrive gear, plus you'd probably never use it when racing at the track. I don't think it's that bad, it got me 164mph on I94. About the six speed, I guess it would be possible to get a JDM six-speed trans
164mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dang man....those mods really up'd the top speed....i only got to 155mph on 355 when mind was stock...that was scary though...ha ha....keep it safe bill...
dang man....those mods really up'd the top speed....i only got to 155mph on 355 when mind was stock...that was scary though...ha ha....keep it safe bill...
Re: Does anyone else here wish they had a gear between 4th and 5th?
Originally posted by 4G63>OOOO
Is it just me or do you guys have a problem with the big gap between 4th and 5th, gearing wise? Has anyone researched possibly importing a 6 speed or having someone stateside modify the 5 speed into accomodating a ratio between 4th and 5th?
I've had the car a week and this is my only gripe...the car NEEDS another, shorter gear between 4th and 5th...anyone been down this road yet or am I going it alone?
Is it just me or do you guys have a problem with the big gap between 4th and 5th, gearing wise? Has anyone researched possibly importing a 6 speed or having someone stateside modify the 5 speed into accomodating a ratio between 4th and 5th?
I've had the car a week and this is my only gripe...the car NEEDS another, shorter gear between 4th and 5th...anyone been down this road yet or am I going it alone?

Look at the gaps in speed from a 7000rpm upshift:
1st: 40mph
2nd: 60mph (20mph jump)
3rd: 83mph (23mph jump)
4th: 113mph (30mph jump) <-too short

5th: 162mph potential (49mph jump) <- translated: "the speed killer"
Last edited by Noize; Oct 7, 2003 at 02:20 PM.
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Re: Re: Does anyone else here wish they had a gear between 4th and 5th?
Originally posted by Noize
Man, I agree 100%! I actually think 4th is a bit too short and 5th too tall, because the gap sucks. I can be blowing someone's doors off, and when I upshift to fifth, my onslaught of power is CRUSHED. This is particularly annoying when racing modded WRXes that pull until 135mph in fourth. You can hold a lead, but when you have to upshift, you're DEAD. Needless to say, I've held 4th past indicated redline.
Look at the gaps in speed from a 7000rpm upshift:
1st: 40mph
2nd: 60mph (20mph jump)
3rd: 83mph (23mph jump)
4th: 113mph (20mph jump) <-too short
5th: 162mph potential (49mph jump) <- translated: "the speed killer"
Man, I agree 100%! I actually think 4th is a bit too short and 5th too tall, because the gap sucks. I can be blowing someone's doors off, and when I upshift to fifth, my onslaught of power is CRUSHED. This is particularly annoying when racing modded WRXes that pull until 135mph in fourth. You can hold a lead, but when you have to upshift, you're DEAD. Needless to say, I've held 4th past indicated redline.

Look at the gaps in speed from a 7000rpm upshift:
1st: 40mph
2nd: 60mph (20mph jump)
3rd: 83mph (23mph jump)
4th: 113mph (20mph jump) <-too short

5th: 162mph potential (49mph jump) <- translated: "the speed killer"
Sorry bout that MP5, I miskeyed that typing in all those numbers.
I realize that the WRX 3-4 spacing really sucks, but its not as far spaced as our 4-5.
Believe me, I'd WAY rather take this gearing, especially for the 1/4 mile.
Point was, when I race a modified WRX, you can see me pull where he upshifts to fourth for a little bit. But when I go to 5th, I'm DEAD-SMOKED-ROCKED-WASTED. That's the only place the WRX's crappy gearing shines, and of course its completely unusable for anything on a track.
But the fact remains, given equal WHP outputs, a modded WRX will blow an Evo's doors off from 115-135 if the Evo upshifts at redline.
I realize that the WRX 3-4 spacing really sucks, but its not as far spaced as our 4-5.
Believe me, I'd WAY rather take this gearing, especially for the 1/4 mile.
Point was, when I race a modified WRX, you can see me pull where he upshifts to fourth for a little bit. But when I go to 5th, I'm DEAD-SMOKED-ROCKED-WASTED. That's the only place the WRX's crappy gearing shines, and of course its completely unusable for anything on a track.
But the fact remains, given equal WHP outputs, a modded WRX will blow an Evo's doors off from 115-135 if the Evo upshifts at redline.
Indeed I agree totally
Originally posted by Noize
Sorry bout that MP5, I miskeyed that typing in all those numbers.
I realize that the WRX 3-4 spacing really sucks, but its not as far spaced as our 4-5.
Believe me, I'd WAY rather take this gearing, especially for the 1/4 mile.
Point was, when I race a modified WRX, you can see me pull where he upshifts to fourth for a little bit. But when I go to 5th, I'm DEAD-SMOKED-ROCKED-WASTED. That's the only place the WRX's crappy gearing shines, and of course its completely unusable for anything on a track.
But the fact remains, given equal WHP outputs, a modded WRX will blow an Evo's doors off from 115-135 if the Evo upshifts at redline.
Sorry bout that MP5, I miskeyed that typing in all those numbers.
I realize that the WRX 3-4 spacing really sucks, but its not as far spaced as our 4-5.
Believe me, I'd WAY rather take this gearing, especially for the 1/4 mile.
Point was, when I race a modified WRX, you can see me pull where he upshifts to fourth for a little bit. But when I go to 5th, I'm DEAD-SMOKED-ROCKED-WASTED. That's the only place the WRX's crappy gearing shines, and of course its completely unusable for anything on a track.
But the fact remains, given equal WHP outputs, a modded WRX will blow an Evo's doors off from 115-135 if the Evo upshifts at redline.
agree with Noize ! Same thing happen to me when I race a E46 M3 on the freeway ! when I have intake and exhaust and EVC. my 4th gear still hang with the M3, but once I up shift to 5th, the M3 just catch up fast and pass me !!
I wish we have the 6 speed tranny like JDM EVO8 !!
Trustz
I wish we have the 6 speed tranny like JDM EVO8 !!Trustz
Originally posted by EVO-Bill
Well the fifth gear is in a way an overdrive gear, plus you'd probably never use it when racing at the track. I don't think it's that bad, it got me 164mph on I94. About the six speed, I guess it would be possible to get a JDM six-speed trans
Well the fifth gear is in a way an overdrive gear, plus you'd probably never use it when racing at the track. I don't think it's that bad, it got me 164mph on I94. About the six speed, I guess it would be possible to get a JDM six-speed trans
I think the gearing is fine the way it is. But I don't race on highways. I like to thrash my car on twisty back roads, and 3rd & 4th gear are perfect for that. 5th is really only for highway droning or when I get stuck behind someone. If the car had 6 gears I think I would have to shift too much.
I used to drive a JDM Evo 7 GSR.... and you guys are right, once you hit 120 mph (top of 4th), 5th is too tall and the car slows noticeably. On the JDM 8 GSR though, 4th and 5th are pretty close. On quick upshifts you can even forget about 5th and just go into 6th.
No... actually there is not need for a gear between 4th and 5th. Longer gears mean less time shifting... You need more power not more gears. check my post out trust me this will fix your problem.
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