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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 04:40 PM
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Lightbulb Today I got Dynoflashed!!

Today was a great day. Started off with me coming home from college and driving up north to Stamford, CT to visit a well respected fellow evo driver, BIG AL.

Yes, Finnally met BIG AL. He took out my ECU and we went up to his office. He safely set up my ECU and connected it to his laptop using a battery back-up to be extra safe.

He asked me a few questions: What Octane do I use: 93,94 so he programmed it accordingly. Next asked me what rev limit i wanted: 7800RPM to be on the safe side while having a TOTALLY stock Evo. So BIG AL went to work adjusted the fuel maps. It took about 3 minutes to transfer the new Program to my ECU.


Then we went back down to my baby and put back the ECU. The whole process taking about 10 Minutes (If you cut the BS out).

Next, BIG AL test drove my car assuring everything went correct. HOLLY S#@T! Talk about linear power! My baby "WOKE UP" There was a Huge increase in power in 1st 2nd 3rd 4th and even 5th! She pulled increasingly hard to my 7800RL.

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PROS:
Redline 7800
Linear Power to RL
FASTER spool (almost 3000)
Harder spool (Hits even harder)
With Downshifting No loss of power
CONS:
Headache
Lost radio settings (disconnected battary)

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So I said good bye to BIG AL for now. I left and headed back home on my 65Mile trip back to NJ. First thing i noticed is smooth linear power band though all gears. Next downshifting was awesome no more loss of power; it just pulls hard. Next It was easier to change lanes with out downshifting becuase the spool was hitting in at a lower RPM.

Its just amazing I thought! So much power... Almost makes you not want more mods for a while. You must get this if your looking for a great way to achieve a quick 20-25WHP! All this power in 10min and great power for the money.

Thanks BIG AL! It was a awesome day, All i have to say is beware of me on the road! Specially you STI BI$#HES!

If you have any questions, or would like to set up an appointment about msg me.
Five Thumbs up to AL!



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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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Did the reflash incorporate boost control? If so, what are you boosting?

Also, 20-25whp?? Doesn't the WORKS reflash fet that with conservative settings and NO boost control?

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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Y didint you ge tthe custom dyno flash?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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These settings are conservative... and it does not control boost levels except hold them out longer to redline. And for Jimbo I dont need the custom dynoflash at this point, my car is completly stock and it would only get about 6more hp out of my car. Maybe in the spring when i get some mods i'll take it back for a custom dyno tune, But for now this is amazing power for the buck! But as for Boost levels it is still 19psi.

Al is an evo exoert and has done a lot of development work
I'll let the results speak for themselves !

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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nice... another happy customer.. i have no rev limit though so i gotta watch what im doing
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Well for those of us who don't know Big Al nor live in Connecticut...what do we do?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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... pm him... and he will get back to you
i dont live in connecticut
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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how much did it cost to have get a dyno-flash? does it cost a lot more to do the custom setup?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 08:22 PM
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Thats interesting because earlier Al said Dynoflash wouldn't be doing any through the mail reflashes. That is essentially what you had done without mailing it off.

I guess all that counts is that you are happy with the results and it sounds like you are

So he programmed to hold 19 psi psi to redline?

I have the WORKS flash and have been very happy with it but I have to pay more for the boost upgrade. My ecu is on it's way back from the upgrade boost flash right now.

I'm wondering what the cost is also? Maybe less expensive than the WORKS. If Al (Dynoflash) is comfortable now flashing your ecu without dyno tuning I don't see why he wouldn't sell the Dynoflash through the mail.

Take care

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:12 PM
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Is your reflash similiar to that of the buschur AFC settings. Me personally if it is the same thing i would go with the AFC just because you dont have to mess with the ECU just in case something happens your warranty will be shot. YOur warranty will be shot if you go in with the AFC but its just easier to take out and get rid of.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by mojo
Thats interesting because earlier Al said Dynoflash wouldn't be doing any through the mail reflashes. That is essentially what you had done without mailing it off.

I guess all that counts is that you are happy with the results and it sounds like you are

So he programmed to hold 19 psi psi to redline?

I have the WORKS flash and have been very happy with it but I have to pay more for the boost upgrade. My ecu is on it's way back from the upgrade boost flash right now.

I'm wondering what the cost is also? Maybe less expensive than the WORKS. If Al (Dynoflash) is comfortable now flashing your ecu without dyno tuning I don't see why he wouldn't sell the Dynoflash through the mail.

Take care
The concept of the company Dyno Flash does involve individually tuning each evo on the dyno to maximize that cars potential for the modifications it has.

After a lot of testing at first with stock evos, I found that most of them required little or no correction.

A decision was made to produce a slightly re-tuned version which had very slightly attenuated fuel and ign maps to test market an "off the shelf" beta version.

The beta testers all recieved substaintial discounts on the map and will also recieve free upgrades in the event of later revisions.

Every one of the cars has been individually test driven by myself carefully to assure that the tune worked properly.

As compared to a normal through the mail tune, I feel that by test driving each car there is some assurance that the map will function properly.

After reviewing the results of more dyno tests and the feedback from beta testers under varying temratures and conditions we will make a decision on whether we feel a stock evo off the shelf mao is something we can stand behind proudly and sell to our fellow evo owners.

As for modified evos we still feel the best path is individual dyno tuning of each car to suit its modifications. We still encourage each evo owner to ick out the modfifications which are best suited to individual tatses and needs and do not desire to limit our clinets to only a few standard staged set ups.

The boost control feature elminates the stock boost taper function so the car holds the boost all the way to red line (it does taper slightly due to the limitations of the stock turbo).

We are currently offering a Stage REV package through the mail which consists of a boost upgrade, rev limit change to client request, top speed limit elimination and fuel cut removal. This package is currently offered at only $225.00. I feel its a great value and is a good addition to users who currently have a piggy back system and want to incorporate some additional features.




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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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Well what will the off the shelf price be Al? Can people get it through the mail soon.

I've already purchased the WORKS P2 flash so I'm not really a potential customer but maybe others could save some money.

If you could offer off the shelf flashes for people with say 3" turboback, cams, etc where people could get a off the shelf semi custom tune. You know, customer just tells you the mods and you give a conservative tune by mail flash. Now that would sell! I know many are hoping that WORKS will do this but so far they don't seem interested or are to busy working on their other projects.

You offer constant boost psi to redline in your basic flash? If so sounds like a great deal.

Again, good luck with the new business
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by batty
Is your reflash similiar to that of the buschur AFC settings. Me personally if it is the same thing i would go with the AFC just because you dont have to mess with the ECU just in case something happens your warranty will be shot. YOur warranty will be shot if you go in with the AFC but its just easier to take out and get rid of.
We have nothing but total respect and admiration for Buschur Racing. I have no idea what their SAFC settings are but I know they must be very good if the BR name is on the box.

However, I disagree with your take on the warranty issue. With my reflash - you get a free flash back to stock at any time. In the event you have any need to go back to stock, I can put your ecu back to its original condition with original sum code and leaving NO TRACE of any modification what so ever.

On the other hand, tapping into the wiring harness to install a SAFC will leave a lot of evidence unless you also buy the special harness.

In any event, the SAFC is a fine tuning tool which works well with the evo, but lacks several of the features of the reflash package.

First the SAFC lacks the resolution of the reflash and is NOT load based.

Second the SAFCchanges the ign timing of the car in an uninteded manner when you attenuate the fuel by making the ecu think you are having less load. This cuases you to have overly aqdvanced ign timing which triggers transient dentonation and resultant klnock activity. Your result is a dyno curve filled with bumps due to the spots with pulled timing - like this :http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno3.JPG

The ability to adjust the timing - as in a reflash or emanage yields a much smoother dyno sheet as you can prevent detonation and stop the ecu from puylling timing - this maintains the same peak power but produces a lot smoother power band:

http://www.pruvenperformance.com/images/aldyno3.JPG

Third, the SAFC lacks the ability to remove the stock fuel cut which requires you to install larger injectors or raise the fuel pressure to be able to pull enough MAF signal to stop the fuel cut. This further aggrivates the advance of the detonation problem by causing the ecu to think there is less and less load on the car and run in the more advanced light load zones.

Fourth, the SAFC does not enable to you change the rev limit or top speed limiter.


Finally, I have discovered that piggy back devises have inherant delays and inaccuracies in the way they calculate the set percentage reductions in the maf signal. These flaws manifest themselves in a very suttle bumpy feeling that you can feel as your car revs through the power band. You would never really appreciate it until you try a reflahsed car and see how smooth, linear and natural the power band feels. Those who have recieved a dyno flash understand what i am talking about.

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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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YOu make a good point . GOod info. BTW my brother knows some guy who knows you in the NASIOC forum. My bros sign on there is SOLO. I heard about you. I didnt know you were the guy my bro was talking about> NJ here i might have to take a ride up there very soon
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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However, I disagree with your take on the warranty issue. With my reflash - you get a free flash back to stock at any time. In the event you have any need to go back to stock, I can put your ecu back to its original condition with original sum code and leaving NO TRACE of any modification what so ever.
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By "a" do you mean only one? So if I have to bring it in for service and I re-input the stock sumcode to get the ECU back to stock. Then can I ship it back to you for a new reflash for free? (of course by paying all shipping charges) or is it just one time then pay again to get your old tuned map on there again?

Thanks. Is $225 the tester price or for the public.
I was seriously thinking of the XEDE because of it's stealth, but at this price. You can't beat this reflash.

Thanks

Leo

Oh I forgot. I live in Denver. Will the reflash work with our high altitude? Can I be a tester for it if you need testing for high altitude?
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