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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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Timing=blown bottom end??

Hi guys,

I really need your opinions on a situation that happened to my evo last tuesday. I had my evo a little over 4 years-->first owner and had only bolt-ons.

This year i hit the 60k mark so decided to follow the 60k maintenance. I provided the HKS timing belt/HKS cam gears and left the shop to do the rest. They did what was included in the 60k;however, i added the AMS balance shaft elimination on my 2.0. Picked up the car on 7/25 then on 7/28(3 days later) after work, i started the engine then seconds later i heard fire works under my hood. Saw a hole from the block. Could this be due to wrong timing??? I daily drive the car to work but hardly push it everyday. Confused to what happen to my perfect evo?

Your feedback will gladly be appreciated. Thanks!

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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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Adding the BSE kit will only make setting the timing easier. Did you take it to a DSM/EVO/Import shop or an old-school monkey that has only ever seen cams in the block and chains?

Ill timing would bend valves and crack cheap pistons maybe, but not a hole in the block. That's a serious rod failure. How bout putting up a pic of this hole?

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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Sorry if it sounded as fireworks..I meant stumping noise. When I towed it back to the shop that day, he told me that the third rod broke and the BSE kit stayed intact. The car sounded normal at first then seconds later thats when i heard the loud noise. The noise sounded like hard metals punching through the walls. Yes, this shop is DSM/EVO/Import. I have known other evo peoples that have gone to them. So why my evo?
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SLWGRL
I have known other evo peoples that have gone to them. So why my evo?
some people are just luckier than others........good luck on the rebuild
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RapedApe
Adding the BSE kit will only make setting the timing easier. Did you take it to a DSM/EVO/Import shop or an old-school monkey that has only ever seen cams in the block and chains?

Ill timing would bend valves and crack cheap pistons maybe, but not a hole in the block. That's a serious rod failure. How bout putting up a pic of this hole?
My car's at the back of the shop's driveway. Ill visit tomorrow and take some pics to post.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by reactionevo8
some people are just luckier than others........good luck on the rebuild
Thanks..im working with the shop for the rebuild. Hope the head is alright tho!
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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wow! I'm so sorry to hear about this!!! Your car was perfect back at the TSE MOD day!!!
Let me know how it turns out
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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SUCKS TO HEAR NO ITS TIME TO BULLETPROOF THAT BABY
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by BabiDollEvo8
wow! I'm so sorry to hear about this!!! Your car was perfect back at the TSE MOD day!!!
Let me know how it turns out
I feel so depress Jen...I know if the engine was just left untouch then everything will still be fine. Im pretty sure they didnt do the timing right? I just dont know what went wrong. Thats why i had to post this thread and ask opinions.
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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I feel so depress Jen...I know if the engine was just left untouch then everything will still be fine. Im pretty sure they didnt do the timing right? I just dont know what went wrong. Thats why i had to post this thread and ask opinions.
incorrect cam timing will not cause a rod to snap.......
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Old Aug 7, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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they got it together went out and beat on your car...was it making weird noises when you picked it up?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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they got it together went out and beat on your car...was it making weird noises when you picked it up?
I have the HKS EVC digital and always keep my eye on the max boost. When i got the car, saw the max boost at 22.9psi. can this also have an affect?
No, i didnt hear any weird noises..there was just more vibration than usually because of the BSE kit.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by reactionevo8
incorrect cam timing will not cause a rod to snap.......
Thanks for the feedback...Q: Isnt the oem block more reliable than a built 2.0? Cuz my block was completely stock or the rod was about to break in no time.
My sister's galant is 197,000 miles and my dad's montero is more than 1xx,xxx miles. Both of their cars are still running. Sorry if i sound to hasty, im just furious.
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 06:37 AM
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What mods do you have? Was the boost set to 22-23 psi when you dropped it off?
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Old Aug 8, 2009 | 06:45 AM
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mine would spike to 27 psi before it went... and i didn't drive it that hard either. mine was likely due to a bad WGA. Swap is currently in progress and should find out the problem soon.

PS I bought the Forge WGA as a replacement
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