Which spools faster: FP HTA GT3582, FP HTA GT 3586 or PTE 6262?
Aug 25, 2009, 12:41 PM
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^how come he still offers it on his website? Also wait a/r did he offer? if its a small a/r that could have been the reason for it having horrible mid range and top end.
Aug 25, 2009, 12:47 PM
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the 3582 will out spool all 3 cause its smallest.. it wont touch the 6262 power though.. the 6062 is a waste of time.. might as well use 6262...
if you want ~650whp and great spool go with 6057 turbo.. we will be showcasing that turbo on a shop car in a few weeks..
MIke
if you want ~650whp and great spool go with 6057 turbo.. we will be showcasing that turbo on a shop car in a few weeks..
MIke
Aug 25, 2009, 06:36 PM
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the 3582 will out spool all 3 cause its smallest.. it wont touch the 6262 power though.. the 6062 is a waste of time.. might as well use 6262...
if you want ~650whp and great spool go with 6057 turbo.. we will be showcasing that turbo on a shop car in a few weeks..
MIke
if you want ~650whp and great spool go with 6057 turbo.. we will be showcasing that turbo on a shop car in a few weeks..
MIke
Aug 25, 2009, 06:55 PM
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you cant be serious.
that thing is an old turd compared to today's standard. it is a very heavy compressor wheel. it is very inefficient and laggy.
nothing is good of it aside from the $200 used price tag you can get on those heaps off ebay.
back to the thread's original intent...
HTA3582 is a 59mm inducer. 70lb/min w/ a 61mm turbine wheel.
6262 is 62mm inducer. flows 72lb/min, and has a 62mm turbine wheel.
hta3582 will spool faster, probably max about 40hp or so less than the 6262 but spool 300 or so rpms faster due to the smaller size of the compressor/turbine.
Aug 26, 2009, 11:29 AM
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you cant be serious.
that thing is an old turd compared to today's standard. it is a very heavy compressor wheel. it is very inefficient and laggy.
nothing is good of it aside from the $200 used price tag you can get on those heaps off ebay.
back to the thread's original intent...
HTA3582 is a 59mm inducer. 70lb/min w/ a 61mm turbine wheel.
6262 is 62mm inducer. flows 72lb/min, and has a 62mm turbine wheel.
hta3582 will spool faster, probably max about 40hp or so less than the 6262 but spool 300 or so rpms faster due to the smaller size of the compressor/turbine.
that thing is an old turd compared to today's standard. it is a very heavy compressor wheel. it is very inefficient and laggy.
nothing is good of it aside from the $200 used price tag you can get on those heaps off ebay.
back to the thread's original intent...
HTA3582 is a 59mm inducer. 70lb/min w/ a 61mm turbine wheel.
6262 is 62mm inducer. flows 72lb/min, and has a 62mm turbine wheel.
hta3582 will spool faster, probably max about 40hp or so less than the 6262 but spool 300 or so rpms faster due to the smaller size of the compressor/turbine.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turb...-part-3-a.html
Aug 26, 2009, 11:33 AM
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BAAAAAAAA....lol The 6262 is an ok design, but the 35r is just plain old technology with some improvements, they still do not compare to any holset. The price, the SPOOL, the power, the DURABILITY, are all better on a holset. there is just no reason to waste your money on these overpriced turbos.
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turb...-part-3-a.html
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turb...-part-3-a.html
btw.. these billet turbos are under 1k in journal bearing.. still overpriced???
Mike
Aug 26, 2009, 11:53 AM
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You keep running the advanced technology holset units and none of us with PTE billets will need to worry about you passing us up.. When a DSM with a holset runs 8.75 & makes 920whp on a t3 you call me.. or even 8 anything for that matter..
btw.. these billet turbos are under 1k in journal bearing.. still overpriced???
Mike
btw.. these billet turbos are under 1k in journal bearing.. still overpriced???
Mike
Well until major shops start selling holsets, AND the shops themselves(WHICH HAVE ANY PART AT THEIR DISPOSE) use the holset, then yes I will call you(because the FAST times would happen). If a shop starts using turbos and proves that they can go fast, then yes people will follow and buy them(like the turbos you sell), thinking they have the best turbo out there. How many times have you heard of a car running holsets? Probably none. Why? because holsets are oem equipment that really arent SPONSORED, OR ADVERTISED, all these OTHER outdated pos turbos(like the gt30's and 57trims) are advertised and people buy them falsely thinking there good turbos. I dont care how fast you have gone with a certain turbo(unless its a 9 sec stock turbo car), i want to know the what the boost threshold of what a certain turbo is, i want to know if its efficient(unlike a 57trim), the PRICE and is it gonna last, and then compare these(and others) attribute to other turbos, that will flow about the same(if not the same).Overpriced? OBVIOUSLY, a holset is half the price of what that overpriced unit costs. I wonder what you think on the Borg Warners.
Aug 26, 2009, 11:56 AM
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Well until major shops start selling holsets, AND the shops themselves(WHICH HAVE ANY PART AT THEIR DISPOSE) use the holset, then yes I will call you(because the FAST times would happen). If a shop starts using turbos and proves that they can go fast, then yes people will follow and buy them(like the turbos you sell), thinking they have the best turbo out there. How many times have you heard of a car running holsets? Probably none. Why? because holsets are oem equipment that really arent SPONSORED, OR ADVERTISED, all these OTHER outdated pos turbos(like the gt30's and 57trims) are advertised and people buy them falsely thinking there good turbos. I dont care how fast you have gone with a certain turbo(unless its a 9 sec stock turbo car), i want to know the what the boost threshold of what a certain turbo is, i want to know if its efficient(unlike a 57trim), the PRICE and is it gonna last, and then compare these(and others) attribute to other turbos, that will flow about the same(if not the same).Overpriced? OBVIOUSLY, a holset is half the price of what that overpriced unit costs. I wonder what you think on the Borg Warners.
Holset will never make it into the evo market bro.. PTE builds turbos for racers.. FP builds turbos for racers.. Holset builds turbos for OEM diesel trucks and guys that wont see the light on a good race turbo like PTE.. Good luck..
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Aug 26, 2009, 12:05 PM
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Ive used the Borgwarners.. actually 4 of them that all blew up apart at the 270 thrust bearing.. They dont take more than 45psi of boost on an EVO..
Holset will never make it into the evo market bro.. PTE builds turbos for racers.. FP builds turbos for racers.. Holset builds turbos for OEM diesel trucks and guys that wont see the light on a good race turbo like PTE.. Good luck..
MIke
Holset will never make it into the evo market bro.. PTE builds turbos for racers.. FP builds turbos for racers.. Holset builds turbos for OEM diesel trucks and guys that wont see the light on a good race turbo like PTE.. Good luck..
MIke
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Aug 26, 2009, 12:08 PM
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Dang, thats sorry, looks like the EVO market place, is NOTHING but a big MARKET PLACE for all the big manufacturers to sell their inferior products. Oh well I respect some companies like FP(i run one of their turbos), but not all. Oh well, good luck to all evo owners, and good luck to YOU, no for reals, I respect you and good luck.
Jeff
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Aug 26, 2009, 12:23 PM
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Surprisingly these turbos are being run at 30psi ALL DAY, and then theres all these guys with programmers running close to 50, and then they(turbo) go on and outlast the truck(which if you see a 200,000mile cummins dont be surprised).