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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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for clarification to some of the comments, you should be more concerned about torque with your stock block, not whp. On the red I'm making a bit under 400wtq on the stock block at ~30.5psi. IMO that is safe for long-term if maintained and not abused (and assuming I don't have a Friday build). On the black I would be making over 400wtq, which would start to worry me.

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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GST, I do not use any correction factor but you know how the smoothing runs on the MD's? I run our smoothing on 60 which I think is where it was when we had it set up originally. The dyno screen when the run is over will read "550" and then when it applies the smoothing it takes the little bumps out of the curve and you end up printing a sheet that reads "535". Follow me?
Ah ok you where referring to smoothing. That is why I asked the question as I know you've always said you run uncorrected so that post threw me for a loop.

Thanks for clarifying.

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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Ouch 2 Grand just for a turbo. Does it do laundry also.

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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IMO that is a pretty good deal seeing that it comes with the high feed oil line ($150 addon to the Red).

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jrod@Buschur
Just to clarify we have a Mustang dyno. Not a Dynojet.
Oops typo, my bad! edited orig post!
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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dave. i got foot in mouth. thank you. HAHAH. ''from the other thread''
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by davidbuschur
I think Boltz asked about the best numbers of this car being 494 previously to the 537 now, yes, I'd agree with that being a good comparison, same boost, same gear and 43 whp'ish gains. Consider the fact this is a compressor upgrade only and that's a damn good gain in power.
Hrm, perhaps the 13% I mentioned above is a bit high, more like 8-9% then?

Still impressive. Can't wait for some basic pump gas numbers @ 26-ish psi, nothing too crazy.
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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Dave - is there a plan to put a black into Project White?
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Ouch 2 Grand just for a turbo. Does it do laundry also.
considering the fp red is 1799 on its own then another 100 to port it. Then you have to buy oil kit 150 or full gasket kit after shipping your all the way there what you expect all the fp colored turbos are right around the same pricing just depends on build and what your aiming for on how much you want to spend
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:41 PM
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Those red numbers seem low. Full build 40 psi. Didnt project white make more at 30psi. Im not nocking the black numbers and Know that you got a heart break dyno, but man 450 is retarded low for that kind of boost.
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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^^I think you need to reexamine the dynosheets...it's stated MULTIPLE time it's 550whp uncorrected.

Some of these comments in this thread just amaze me...some are never satisfied. If I was David I would probably never want to post detailed comparison's again or reach through the screen and strangle a few people

Point is he posted the data for all us to look at. Why would he run this type of turbo on pump? That would be pointless for the most part. It's a large turbo designed for 30+ psi and people who can afford the supporting mods to run this turbo on something other than just strait pump gas.

Btw David I would like to see dynographs from a 2.188L stroker running on 87oct with a meth mixture of 78/22 and please rev to 8967RPM. Would I be able to hit 42.555psi at 2450rpm too? Just curious

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rlln247
those red numbers seem low. Full build 40 psi. Didnt project white make more at 30psi. Im not nocking the black numbers and know that you got a heart break dyno, but man 450 is retarded low for that kind of boost.
Originally Posted by davidbuschur
the posted dyno test was done in 3rd gear on both pulls. Chris's highest numbers were done at higher boost and in 4th gear.

Originally Posted by slorice
yes. Cars make more power in 4th gear on br's dyno than they do in 3rd gear.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RockmanX
considering the fp red is 1799 on its own then another 100 to port it. Then you have to buy oil kit 150 or full gasket kit after shipping your all the way there what you expect all the fp colored turbos are right around the same pricing just depends on build and what your aiming for on how much you want to spend
Didnt realize it came with the $150.00 oil feed kit. Then it sounds a little more viable.
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:44 PM
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I want one
Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by dbsears
^^I think you need to reexamine the dynosheets...it's stated MULTIPLE time it's 550whp uncorrected.

Some of these comments in this thread just amaze me...some are never satisfied. If I was David I would probably never want to post detailed comparison's again or reach through the screen and strangle a few people

Point is he posted the data for all us to look at. Why would he run this type of turbo on pump? That would be pointless for the most part. It's a large turbo designed for 30+ psi and people who can afford the supporting mods to run this turbo on something other than just strait pump gas.

Btw David I would like to see dynographs from a 2.188L stroker running on 87oct with a meth mixture of 78/22 and please rev to 8967RPM. Would I be able to hit 42.555psi at 2450rpm too? Just curious
Feel the same way bro. This is why I'm not the biggest evom fan and have my own local evo site.

BTW I believe the setup you described above should produce, and I'm just throwing this out there, but I believe you'll produce roughly 462.7 whp, didn't do the breakdown to each axle yet, but I'm working on it.



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