1099$

 

well let me answer the questions of its much easier to sell a red and pick up a 9 turbo then covert please. Dont hand me that crap. I tried to sell my brand new red for a stupid price and kept getting lowballed from hell and back. it was crazy. turbo is still 1799+shipping. people want to get it for 900-1100 fp white price and its brand new no sir. lets say you were dumb enough to sell it then what you have to pay another 450 for a 9 turbo. then that leaves you with 650 then you still have to come up with 450+shipping and +95 porting out your pocket. Not to mention how much time your wasting when you could have just paid 500 out of pocket first time and have it done and dont have to deal with the potential person saying something wrong with your red blah blah blah. shorter time frame. that math is if!!!! you got 1100 for your red. Why take a paycut and put more hands in the pot when not needed unbolt it put it in a box fill out rebuild form call them ship it off done 2 - 4 weeks hello black

 

In your case I can understand because it was a brand new turbo. Lets assume just for this example that the Red being considered for the upgrade is a used turbo. Would it be a better option at that point to sell it with a ix core being required in the deal? Or still send it in for the Black upgrade? I did not ask what the Red to Black conversion would cost but I assume less since they both share the same turbine wheel and housing. This is how I am looking at it, if someone were to offer their Red up for sale for lets say $800-1000 and a ix core, variables of course considering if the Red is ported or has the large inlet comp cover. Wouldnt that be a pretty good deal? after all the ix to Black upgrade is $1100. It would surely cost less to do this than the Black upgrade to an exsisting Red.

Bryan

 

To be honest with you i hope nobody is DUMB enough to sell a red used or not for 1000k. thats how the market on prices gets killed. then next we know lowballing begins and the red is not a baby turbo. its a killer tubo capible of 631whp on right setup. the cheapest i seen was 1300 used. i think reds should be sold for 1400-1500 to keep market up on them once you get a ton of 800 sales going on nobody want to pay up. and people will say ill trade you my 9 turbo plus 200 for your red. ill pass on that. if your lucky enough to find one of the dumbest evo owners that just needs cash then your fortune im kind of glad im out the fp red market if that crap starts the turbo will be worth nothing might as well keep it and put it in a box to collect dust.

 

I think you might have missed what I said. I did not say to sell a Red for $1000 outright, I said 800-1000 plus a ix core. Thats roughly 1250-1450 when you consider the value of the ix turbo. Anyway its of no importance, I was just making a hypothetical statement.

Bryan

 

I called FP today. Yup it's 1100 to turn your 9 into a black. But is it extra if you want porting or coating done. Well time to start saving up. My evo 9 turbo is wanting this, It told me it's self.

I asked Robert at FP, "Why isn't anyone running this black on a stock block?" Robert said, "Because the turbo flows 60+ something lbs. ( I can't remember the right number). That's like giving a 9 year old a thoroughbred."

 

Now that FP will convert stock IX turbos into Fp Black turbos, will they also convert my old, outmoded, FP Green turbo to FP Black specs?

I don´t see why not since my Green is basically just a IX turbo with slightly larger compressor and turbine wheels than the IX wheels? However, the housings are the same. Huh? What do you guys think? I am really bored with my current setup.

 

dont see why not. just give them a call and find out for sure. should cost you alittle less unless your is beat up inside.

 

Yeah just call them up. Robert is a cool guy to talk to. He is funny if you ask me.

 

I want my IX Converted over but i will mostly be a pump gas turbo.

You need an upgraded wastegate, ported, 80MM intake port, and their intake pipe. That is much more then $1100.

 

Folks are not using this on stock block?? Ive seen people use 6262's & HTA35R's on stock blocks.. why not blacks?

Thanks!

 

The black is going to make substantially more torque then a 6262 or HTA35R.

 

So run like 28PSI on pump gas? That should work nicely, obviously not ideal but why not put around on pump gas for a bit then go with an engine build down the road?

 

It comes with a wastegate use that one. You should automatically get it ported. you can buy another silcone coupler to fit your current intake. Thats what im doing for my injen system not getting rid of that after all the work i done. Again you dont need there intake pipe. There is really no point or benifit to run it on 25-30 psi. The black makes to much TQ hints why you should not really run it on stock block but folks will try. The only real benifit to get it now without built block is if you plan on doing a built block real sooon also of course the turbo will be under less stress then the red at same psi and powerlevels. SO you make the choice. I prefer to have things right the first time

 

Thatd be a bit of a waste based on what Ive been reading, you could get a Red and benefit from it much more if you wanted to only run 28psi. The black needs mid 30's+ for it to be efficient. Youd have a turbo capable of all that flow but only be using it to like 75% of its potential when you could get a Red and use it to 90% of its potential.

Dont get your calculators out everyone, my percentages were just used for demonstrational purposes lol.