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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by HeadGames
we have installed over a hundred Evo heads with the Supertech spring kit, and besides at first (3-4years ago when the valve seal issue came about) have not had a issue yet. (the Honda camp is not a good comparison. we have not seen the same issues associated with them with the Mitsu kit...these are perfectly safe!)

You just have to use a valve seal for the Honda LS or Supertech sells the correct seal as well. If you don't the inner spring will rub on the seal and destroy it. Important to be armed with knowledge of parts selection.

In deciding to rebuild the head completely with guides, valve job and such we always recommend it to our customers. The stock guides are cast iron, and steel retains heat. So, you can take heat out of the valve by running the bronze. And although bronze does wear faster, bronze will not break apart and end up in your engine like a cast guide will. So you free up a little power(very little) by reducing friction, and get some safety in there as well. You will also pick up a little flow and safety with a good valve with accouterments like thicker margins, and more heat resistant materials make it a good choice if your wallet allows it.
Thanks for the info. Now at the moment im not ready to do the Whole head. I was thinking more of the lines of Kelford 272/272 Supertech Dual Spring and retainers as well as head studs. Is this a set up good for a daily driven Evo?
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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The Kelford 272 with Supertech is a great setup and very common amongst street cars.. I havent seen any supertech seal issues as of yet but we use the provided seals with each spring kit,,

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
The Kelford 272 with Supertech is a great setup and very common amongst street cars.. I havent seen any supertech seal issues as of yet but we use the provided seals with each spring kit,,

Mike
Thanks for the info Mike.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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yes sir..drive it like you stole it.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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What can I rev to with a Set up like that? Safely
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Do i have to have other work done to the motor to rev higher?
Is it even worth to rev it higher? at a Stock Turbo? Eventually i plan on going with a FP red.

Sorry for all the questions guys. But I rather know than be sorry later on.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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I'm glad you posted this up Kris. Good read
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 4G63K
What can I rev to with a Set up like that? Safely
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Do i have to have other work done to the motor to rev higher?
Is it even worth to rev it higher? at a Stock Turbo? Eventually i plan on going with a FP red.

Sorry for all the questions guys. But I rather know than be sorry later on.
your camshaft is what is going to dictate how high your going to rev your engine..Mike would be more knowledgeable then I on where that cam makes power on the dyno, but I can say your valvespring will not be your limiting factor any longer.
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 4G63K
What can I rev to with a Set up like that? Safely
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Do i have to have other work done to the motor to rev higher?
Is it even worth to rev it higher? at a Stock Turbo? Eventually i plan on going with a FP red.

Sorry for all the questions guys. But I rather know than be sorry later on.

With an FP red you have no worries about revving the car.. The turbo doesnt make power at 9k anyway.. You will be revving the car to where you find the power start to drop off.. Well before 9k for sure..

Mike
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
FP beehives work well to 8600 or so and possibly higher depending how disciplined your right foot is.

Do you have the spec of FP beehive? Thanks
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 4G63K
What can I rev to with a Set up like that? Safely
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Do i have to have other work done to the motor to rev higher?
Is it even worth to rev it higher? at a Stock Turbo? Eventually i plan on going with a FP red.

Sorry for all the questions guys. But I rather know than be sorry later on.
Since that's very similar to what i run Cos 272 vs Kelfords 272 and duals i spin my motor to 8800 w/ the 6262 so you def won't have an issue on the stocker or RED
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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Since that's very similar to what i run Cos 272 vs Kelfords 272 and duals i spin my motor to 8800 w/ the 6262 so you def won't have an issue on the stocker or RED
6262 rool: lol. Thanks for the info. Anything else done to the Head?
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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i just swapped out my BC singles to supertech duals, heard to many horror stories about the BC's breaking, especially when running a fairly agressive cam. I was only taking the motor to 8500 as after that it didnt sound happy with the BC springs. Theres some pics of the install here
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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I've never ben a fan of BC products (esp. coming from the Honda camp). I run Kelford 272's with Supertech duals and retainers. No problems here. I don't beat my car every day but when I do its 29 pounds of E85 goodness. I spin her up to about 8-8.5k
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Green Meanie
I've never ben a fan of BC products (esp. coming from the Honda camp). I run Kelford 272's with Supertech duals and retainers. No problems here. I don't beat my car every day but when I do its 29 pounds of E85 goodness. I spin her up to about 8-8.5k
Nice to hear! Thanks!
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Old Dec 8, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 4G63K
6262 rool: lol. Thanks for the info. Anything else done to the Head?
Nope.

Totally bone stock besides the cams, springs, retainers, and seals.........NO port work has been done and it still uses the oem valves etc ....................
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