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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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FP Red with 9.8T exhaust housing for extra response?

I have a FP Red on my evo6 setup.
I'm looking for extra response.
I've got a 2.3 stroker kit build in the works, all my parts are coming from the states. That'll be happening early next year.

My question is -
Will putting a 9.8T exhaust housing onto a FP Red increase response by alot?
I'm only looking to make 450whp, so i'm not bothered if i lose some top end for the sake of picking up response.

Any ideas?
Please be constructive.

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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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Just stick to the normal turbo setup with the new 2.3L....From what I have seen it will spool up almost like stock. The addition of the 2.3L and a smaller hotside will not be good at all for your topend.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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I have been wondering this as well. FP had released a 9.0CM turbine housing and they stated with the larger turbine wheel that it still significantly outflowed the stock. Now that the FP Black shows how much power (650+whp) the 10.5 with the same turbine is worth the 9.0 seems to be the better option for the Red. I would like to see that compared to a BBK. I am sure the red would decimate the BBK in all areas with the smaller turbine side.
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by batty200
I have been wondering this as well. FP had released a 9.0CM turbine housing and they stated with the larger turbine wheel that it still significantly outflowed the stock. Now that the FP Black shows how much power (650+whp) the 10.5 with the same turbine is worth the 9.0 seems to be the better option for the Red. I would like to see that compared to a BBK. I am sure the red would decimate the BBK in all areas with the smaller turbine side.
yeah thats what i was thinking.

i've got a spare housing here, i might get it machined up to accept the td06sl2 rear of the RED.

I'll email forcedperformance and see what they say
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Old Dec 13, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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I remember robert posting about this option awhile back. the 9.0 only spools the turbo like 50 or 100 rpm faster. it wasnt very exiting.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 12:04 PM
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bump for more ideas.

forcedperformance said-
"Yea i wouldnt go with the smaller one brings up too much exhaust temps"
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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It would choke off and die with the smaller housing. The turbo is already really responsive on the 2.3...
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 04:22 PM
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I would wait till 2.3 is in before complaining about response as well.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 04:28 PM
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...or just buy a BBK or HTA Green.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
...or just buy a BBK or HTA Green.
solving a problem with $1500 is a bit of a cop out.
i'd rather use the things i have to fix it than just throw cash at it.
not everyone thinks like americans do lol

yes maybe i should have made a better decision, but it was hard with the information i had to use.

i'll just have to wait for the 2.3
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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Offer your Red as a straight-up trade for either of the turbos I mentioned. Or sell the Red and buy one. How exactly is fixing a problem with minimal out-of-pocket cost a bad thing, or American, as you put it? If by American you mean thinking and researching before making a purchase then you should try it sometime rather than having to make threads like this Also, why exactly is fixing the problem correctly a cop out?

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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 07:39 PM
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If you are getting a 2.3 dont change anything yet until you have the final motor in there to change the turbo.

If you get a faster spooling turbo then get a 2.3 then your power sucks up top you will be very pissed as well. Wait and see if you like it before you change the turbo.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
Offer your Red as a straight-up trade for either of the turbos I mentioned. Or sell the Red and buy one. How exactly is fixing a problem with minimal out-of-pocket cost a bad thing, or American, as you put it? If by American you mean thinking and researching before making a purchase then you should try it sometime rather than having to make threads like this Also, why exactly is fixing the problem correctly a cop out?
+1 On this! Definately don't like your comment about Americans... Maybe he should do it like they do in New Zealand. In fact what the hell do they do???
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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+1 ^ built 2.3 & FP red turbo is a proven and feared combo. I haven't heard anyone running it complaining much about spool. If you want better response after you've tried it trade your red straight up for a BBK full or an HTA green. You'll probably find a taker.
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Old Dec 15, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by batty200
I have been wondering this as well. FP had released a 9.0CM turbine housing and they stated with the larger turbine wheel that it still significantly outflowed the stock. Now that the FP Black shows how much power (650+whp) the 10.5 with the same turbine is worth the 9.0 seems to be the better option for the Red. I would like to see that compared to a BBK. I am sure the red would decimate the BBK in all areas with the smaller turbine side.
I haven't heard the word decimate since Jesse from the fast and the furious talking about overnight parts from Japan.

My guess is the smaller hotside would skyrocket the PR between the compressor/turbine wheels and add a ton of heat. I'd put all my marbles in that the BBK will still crush the red on spool even with the 9cm hotside.
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