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Old Dec 17, 2009, 06:23 PM
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can you hit 500whp on 880's without maxing them out?
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I personally would say go with a diff injector than the FIC 1050s. It seems they are very hit or miss. I have a couple of little issues with mine - cold/warm start issues. Not to say that FIC doesn't make good injectors, I would go with their BlueMax series if you can afford them.
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cold/warm start issues are almost entirely tune. I have yet to see a set of injectors that I cant make work if given enough time...or beer (post tune of course ).
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ID 2200's work great with the Black
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Originally Posted by maperformance
I have the FIC 1450's in my personal car and they are better than most 1000's. I have personally tune in a bunch of injectors and I have to say that these are the best injectors on the market.
Do you think i'd need another pump to run those?
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Originally Posted by bsmart82
My stock injectors see 100% IDC at 24psi on the stock turbo and would be lucky to make 330whp. I would recommend at least 1200cc or larger to give you room to grow. Personally I like to buy injectors once and size them for future upgrades. Large injectors are very tunable on the stock ecu.
Good point, i also ran out of injector at 315 hp with stocks and a walboro at 23psi. I was seeing 100% to 110% sometimes.
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Very happy with my FIC 1050s, though I haven't checked IDCs with them at higher boost yet (they were fine on Red up to 31 psi on 93 octane). If you plan to run E85, budget for more fuel pump.
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RC engineering has a great calculator on it for injector sizing. There are more then a few variables in calculating injector sizes--its not a guessing game. My point was I have yet to see a simple 2x calculation for injector sizing without knowing more then what was provided. There is a lot of difference between 500hp-700hp and the fuel required to drive it--and then again, going bigger in injector to compensate for not doing the math--gets you something you can work with. If it was one size fits all we would all run 1200cc injectors and we could tune them to work with anything--any turbo from blk to green.. But really is that the best solution--it certainly is a solution. Sounds like you have someone that will do you rt. Case closed.
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Originally Posted by Walt
Do you think i'd need another pump to run those?
Not at all. One walbro 255 will run them fine.
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Originally Posted by maperformance
I have the FIC 1450's in my personal car and they are better than most 1000's. I have personally tune in a bunch of injectors and I have to say that these are the best injectors on the market.
Have you tried ID2200s yet?

Originally Posted by jezzy101
ID 2200's work great with the Black
This is what I was going to suggest. Never have a need to buy another injector again.
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If your running pump/race you can get away with a 12xx for the most part. If you decide to switch to e-85 down the road, the ID2200 are an awesome injector.

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If you want to go that large the FIC2150 works very well also.
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Originally Posted by bbyevo8u
can you hit 500whp on 880's without maxing them out?
Yes, on race fuel you can, but not e85. The question is why go small unless you are getting a really good deal on them. There is no gain to be had in driveability anymore with the bluemax series.

The problem is a lot of people, including myself think oh I only need 660s, then 880s... and then you decide to upgrade your turbo or run e85 and then you have to buy another set. I am not saying go straight to 2200s or 2150s, because they cost almost twice what the 1850s cost (almost $1000 with plug n play adapters), but make sure you have enough wiggle room for future plans.

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Originally Posted by 2highpsi
Have you tried ID2200s yet?
We are currently testing the FIC Blue Max 2150's on a car in house. I am still in testing stages, but for the most part the Idle is like stock with Kelford 272's. The car made 641 at 30 psi on E-70. Overall I am really happy with them, I am real interested to see how good fuel mileage is with them.
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Originally Posted by maperformance
Not at all. One walbro 255 will run them fine.
Thanks, maybe i'll just go with the 1450's for now until i build the motor and pump some e85 in that bioch.. For now just some 93 and or race gas.
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