Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

<MR OWNERS> 6spd or 5spd?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:42 PM
  #16  
metalsaber's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,247
Likes: 2
From: The Sticks
I wish someone would do a 6spd upgrade package. I love my 6spd and would hate to go to a 5spd.
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 05:55 PM
  #17  
TommyGunMR's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 203
Likes: 0
From: Central Fl
Are all of you running oil coolers on the 6spd?
Reply
Old Dec 29, 2009 | 07:55 PM
  #18  
sktng22's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 722
Likes: 0
From: Northern NJ
idk bout u guys but i love my 5 speed. 6 speeds are just to many gears!!
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 12:54 PM
  #19  
lude2evo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 461
Likes: 0
From: texas
Originally Posted by F0RSAKEN
If Shep starts offering upgraded gears for the 6 I'll keep it, but when/if it goes, I'm switching otherwise.
agreed! im glad to see people are still using the 6spd. makes me want to get a trans cooler though although ive only done 1 long pull in it thus far.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 01:39 PM
  #20  
fas-n-furyus's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
From: in my car
love my 6 speed ...but everyone keeps telling me it gonna break after 500++ whp...and my goal is 600+

it would be a shame to break it and waste a prefectly good box when i could of sold it for some $$$.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 02:56 PM
  #21  
F0RSAKEN's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 519
Likes: 0
From: WA
Originally Posted by fas-n-furyus
love my 6 speed ...but everyone keeps telling me it gonna break after 500++ whp...and my goal is 600+

it would be a shame to break it and waste a prefectly good box when i could of sold it for some $$$.
If it's taken care of it should be fine, even at 500whp. The real problem is no one with that much power babies their car all the time. Also, it isn't the horsepower that's going to break it, it's the torque.

If your goal is 600+, and you plan to drive the car, you probably want to get the 5spd lol.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 03:05 PM
  #22  
DJ Brett B's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 888
Likes: 0
From: salt lake city
Originally Posted by F0RSAKEN
Depending on how tight the track is, you may want to stick with the 6 for the gearing (scca), but I think the 5 would be better on a road course and for drag racing, as you would have to shift less.

I'm at 377whp, and my car goes through 3 gears in very little time, which is lots of shifting. More power is going to = less time in each gear = more time shifting = less time accelerating. If Shep starts offering upgraded gears for the 6 I'll keep it, but when/if it goes, I'm switching otherwise.
Shep doesn't have one, but supposedly TRE will eventually have one, although it was supposed to have been released already... this is taken from his website:

"I have been working on the 6 speed upgrade for nearly 2 years and will be releasing the final revised gearset this winter. I've spent a great deal of time and money on this project and was hoping they would have be completed and ready this August but I'm back in school and it's taking up most of my time. None the less it will be available soon."

I would prefer to keep my 6 speed as well, and have done 5 HPDEs with it with a few fluid changes, no probs yet... but would really prefer to have a built version of the 6 speed if it dies rather than a 5 speed.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 04:59 PM
  #23  
lude2evo's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 461
Likes: 0
From: texas
that would be awesome if someone gets it done.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 06:33 PM
  #24  
Teal2nnr's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,491
Likes: 41
From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada
The six speed will always be a weaker trans due to size constraints within the housing. I love my 6 spd, but I've given up hope on it long ago (as far as handling the kind of power that i will be putting out).
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:03 PM
  #25  
F0RSAKEN's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (34)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 519
Likes: 0
From: WA
Originally Posted by Teal2nnr
The six speed will always be a weaker trans due to size constraints within the housing. I love my 6 spd, but I've given up hope on it long ago (as far as handling the kind of power that i will be putting out).
True, but still, small things like cryo'ed gears, blueprinting (if that's even an option on trans), and some of Shep's treatments will help immensely for longevity under big power numbers.
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:25 PM
  #26  
Motor-Rx's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
From: Denver,Co
I am currently swapping a 6 speed for a 5 speed. Did not want to break a perfectly good trans. Mine has 10k on it if any one needs one!!!
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:51 PM
  #27  
05ah8james's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (23)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 771
Likes: 1
From: Connecticut
I have a 6-spped that works great, but im building my car to make 700+whp. I plan on buying a 5-speed but am temped to see how much abuse the 6-speed will take
Reply
Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:57 PM
  #28  
Laxman's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 480
Likes: 13
From: Tucson
Originally Posted by DJ Brett B
Shep doesn't have one, but supposedly TRE will eventually have one, although it was supposed to have been released already... this is taken from his website:

"I have been working on the 6 speed upgrade for nearly 2 years and will be releasing the final revised gearset this winter. I've spent a great deal of time and money on this project and was hoping they would have be completed and ready this August but I'm back in school and it's taking up most of my time. None the less it will be available soon."

I would prefer to keep my 6 speed as well, and have done 5 HPDEs with it with a few fluid changes, no probs yet... but would really prefer to have a built version of the 6 speed if it dies rather than a 5 speed.
Last I heard from Jon it was on hold till sometime early in the new year. The gear set has a different cut that allows it to sustain higher torque number than the original transmission.

I am definitely interested in seeing how the new gear set turns out since I'm still in the decision making process for staying with the 6sp or changing to the 5sp when the transmission finally crumps from road courses. With a cooler, hopefully I'll have another two years out of the thing....
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2009 | 03:35 AM
  #29  
Whoop_ass's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 943
Likes: 0
From: on earth
Originally Posted by 20gmr
Idk I am big 6 speed supporter, so much trash gets talked about them failing, but 5 speeds fail too.

I abused the p*ss outa my 6 speed while I had it and it never let me down, tons of No lift shifts at 520whp......
Man i love my 6 speed so much and has been abused but they are weaker.


Originally Posted by fas-n-furyus
love my 6 speed ...but everyone keeps telling me it gonna break after 500++ whp...and my goal is 600+

it would be a shame to break it and waste a prefectly good box when i could of sold it for some $$$.
It is not HP that kills it but rather the torque..
I grenaded my properly the other day, I think it is 3rd gear and will postt back once it stripped out car



@ 620ft/lbs it on borrowed time...
Originally Posted by F0RSAKEN
If it's taken care of it should be fine, even at 500whp. The real problem is no one with that much power babies their car all the time. Also, it isn't the horsepower that's going to break it, it's the torque.

If your goal is 600+, and you plan to drive the car, you probably want to get the 5spd lol.
I agree...

Originally Posted by Motor-Rx
I am currently swapping a 6 speed for a 5 speed. Did not want to break a perfectly good trans. Mine has 10k on it if any one needs one!!!
Pm me if you looking at selling it and price.. I want to rebuild my 6 speed.

Originally Posted by 05ah8james
I have a 6-spped that works great, but im building my car to make 700+whp. I plan on buying a 5-speed but am temped to see how much abuse the 6-speed will take
Hmmm i dont think it gonna last bud.
rather just change it out, before you end up picking up pieces
it not just the gears that are smaller but the design of the 5 speed is better to handle more power and torque.
Reply
Old Dec 31, 2009 | 03:52 AM
  #30  
sleeper04's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 334
Likes: 0
From: North Dakota
where can i pick up one of these trans coolers?
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:53 PM.