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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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there are so many variable as everyone else has said. first inclination would be a boost leak. could also be you bov not being able to hold the boost. what kind do you have? as eric said the milspec cat shouldnt be too much of an issue. i would also check the WG and consider upgrading that as well. but before you go spending money where it is not needed, i would run a boost leak test because it could be something so simple as a leak in one of the pipings. as someone above said, if your close enough to iveytune i would turn to them after the boost leak test to diagnose any other potential problems. gl with you situation and keep us updated on a solution once it is found!
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 03:59 PM
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I have hit 37 and 35psi a few time with the stock 19psi wastegate acutator. My turbo is unported. I would look for boost leaks. What type of bov are you running. I could not make 32 with my stock plastc bdv(bov)
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mt057
I have hit 37 and 35psi a few time with the stock 19psi wastegate acutator. My turbo is unported. I would look for boost leaks. What type of bov are you running. I could not make 32 with my stock plastc bdv(bov)
the stock WG acutator is 15psi

the wastegate acutator does not help you hit higher boost just helps hold it better!
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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pardon, I meant the 19psi that used to come standard on the red.
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Boost Leak test > 25psi wastegate(with correct preload) > Good quality BOv > Retune > 500whp+
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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could also be a bad turbo. how does it spool?
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Old Feb 19, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mt057
I have hit 37 and 35psi a few time with the stock 19psi wastegate acutator. My turbo is unported. I would look for boost leaks. What type of bov are you running. I could not make 32 with my stock plastc bdv(bov)
Stock ix bov. What would recommend?

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Joe, I been looking for a bunch of stuff to try to solve your problem and here I finally made it to your thread, good luck buddy, txt me later- maybe after work I can swing by and take a look at things with you.
Thanks man. We'll see what happens.

Originally Posted by evo unknown
I posted above, but wanted to follow up with other suggestions..

What kind of boost controller are you using and who is doing the tuning? Possibly try adjusting the spring on the oem actuator. Remove the wastegate actuator, a pin and two screws, and then turn the nut on the end to increase/decrease spring load, however, I forget which direction does what.

People with FP Greens often upgrade the wastegate and make 400+awhp.
We removed the wastegate, crushed the spring, tightened/adjusted it max.

Originally Posted by evo unknown
Also, where are you in NJ...because there are numerous tuning shops in norther NJ that I know of..I highly recommend IveyTune, and there also is turbotrix.

Call IveyTune and explain your situation, they will steer you in right direction.
Ivey Tune is who's doing the tuning/dynoing. They've been a really really great help.

So here are so more questions,

1. What is the limit to the FP 18psi wastegate?
2. Will a boost leak test tell me if my bov and or my wastegate is the issue??
3. What's the best bov for this setup? (i could research this but someone just give me some starting ideas)



Thanks for everyone's help.

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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 04:46 AM
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whats you wtq at?
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by bbyevo8u
whats you wtq at?
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18psi fp wastegate or 25psi?? Which one i need. There's like no info on wastegates on this site, it's crazy
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 06:07 AM
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well if you stay with meth then 25psi wga

if you want to run just pump then go then go with 18psi wga


the wga psi is what the turbo will run at a minimum, so if you have a bad boost leak and say you are running the 25psi wga then your turbo will do whatever it takes to make that 25psi "minimum wga duty" even if it has to run at 50psi to achieve the 25psi minimum.. if it can if not bye bye turbo

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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
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18psi fp wastegate or 25psi?? Which one i need. There's like no info on wastegates on this site, it's crazy
18psi means that's the lowest boost you can hit with 0 preload. 25psi same thing. It really depends on what your average boost will be.

Boost leak test is there to pin point your leak so it can be fixed. Boost leaks will really put a damper on your expected results and tuning.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bbyevo8u
well if you stay with meth then 25psi wga

if you want to run just pump then go then go with 18psi wga


the wga psi is what the turbo will run at a minimum, so if you have a bad boost leak and say you are running the 25psi wga then your turbo will do whatever it takes to make that 25psi "minimum wga duty" even if it has to run at 50psi to achieve the 25psi minimum.. if it can if not bye bye turbo

Thanks for the info. So i plan to stay with meth so i guess the 25psi unit is what I want? Like i said, i normally read for hours about parts before I buy anything but I can't seem to find any good info about wastegates?? And since i'm already making 32psi I should have to worry about hurting the turbo with the 25psi wga unless something else goes wrong?

Originally Posted by Evoryder
18psi means that's the lowest boost you can hit with 0 preload. 25psi same thing. It really depends on what your average boost will be.

Boost leak test is there to pin point your leak so it can be fixed. Boost leaks will really put a damper on your expected results and tuning.
Thanks for the info Doing a boost leak test tomorrow.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Also, are their any benefits to a 25psi FP wastegate over a 18psi one over than ability to hold peak boost?

Like it seems up to 25psi, the 25psi wastegate would be utilizing the turbo much more?? In other words, the 18psi would be making the turbo spin harder because it's diverting air earlier and more air later on??
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Carloverx
Also, are their any benefits to a 25psi FP wastegate over a 18psi one over than ability to hold peak boost?

Like it seems up to 25psi, the 25psi wastegate would be utilizing the turbo much more?? In other words, the 18psi would be making the turbo spin harder because it's diverting air earlier and more air later on??
You're spool should be identical depending on the preload you set...also the 18psi is only different because of the spring, it has a softer spring than the 25psi wastegate.

With your mods and like stated before, just go with the 25psi wastegate.Same price.
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Old Feb 20, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Evoryder
You're spool should be identical depending on the preload you set...also the 18psi is only different because of the spring, it has a softer spring than the 25psi wastegate.

With your mods and like stated before, just go with the 25psi wastegate.Same price.
Thanks for the info.

So, it's going to be a 25psi FP wastegate (is there a forge equivalent?)

and either a forge rs bov, or a aps bov... Anyone have any hard evidence of either being reliable/daily driveable at 30+ psi??

Thanks again for everyone's input.
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