View Poll Results: Hows your Shifter?
Yes my shifter is notchy!!!



147
84.00%
No my shifter is butter.....



28
16.00%
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Notchy Shifter Feel?
Originally posted by BeenWaitin4Evo
I had a bad case of the notchiness before I installed the ss clutch line.
Cleared mine up almost 100%. Still a little "rigidity" in the shifter, but I expect that from a performance oriented transmission.
I had a bad case of the notchiness before I installed the ss clutch line.
Cleared mine up almost 100%. Still a little "rigidity" in the shifter, but I expect that from a performance oriented transmission.
Just curious?In my opinion, notchy is GOOD. You always know exactly what gear you're in. Plus it doesn't go into other gears if your a little slack on the position. You have to be precise and intentional.
my .02!
smanders
Last edited by smanders; Nov 4, 2003 at 09:11 PM.
Originally posted by smanders
What the hell does the Stainless Steel Clutch line have to do with the feel of the shifter?
Just curious?
smanders
What the hell does the Stainless Steel Clutch line have to do with the feel of the shifter?
Just curious?smanders
Take the shifter apart and lube the hell out of the plastic retainer that surrounds the metal ball on the shift lever. I mean, put lube everywhere... This will help w/ the notchiness - otherwise, make sure you are fully engaging your clutch (maybe move your seat forward) between shifts. All in $3.00 max, solution...
The notchyiness is probably from the clutch not fully disengaging. one way to tell is where you clutch start to disengage in comparisoin to the pedal. if your pedal disengages high you should not have this problem. if it does disengage kinda low then it may not be completely disengaging. the ss clutchline would help by elimanting flex and would ensure a quicker diengaement. if your pedal is high then it is probaly related more to the line flex that the engaement point. there is no way to adjust teh actual hydralic clutch system itself but you can adjust teh pedal position. (at least you should be able to) hope this helps.
p.s. improper or not fully disengaing clutches could be a reason why so many peoploe who don't even drive their evos hard having their clutches go out. if the clutch does not fully disengage then the it is constantly rubbing casuing friction... basically "riding" the clutch. Thisis just a theory however... i have no evo to prove it... yet.
p.s. improper or not fully disengaing clutches could be a reason why so many peoploe who don't even drive their evos hard having their clutches go out. if the clutch does not fully disengage then the it is constantly rubbing casuing friction... basically "riding" the clutch. Thisis just a theory however... i have no evo to prove it... yet.
Last edited by TurboZ; Nov 5, 2003 at 08:44 AM.
the notchiness is caused not by a shifter or lines or lack of lube. It is directly connected to how the synchro sleeve engages with the gear itself. I found that in my tranny the sleeves were "crashing" into the gear teeth. This crashing is caused by the shift forks not pushing the sleeve straight in, instead they push the sleeve in a slightly crooked way. I hope to figure this one out as I put my tranny back together. By the way, I know how to drive.
I bought 8 metal washers from Home Depot and rep[lace the rubber bushings. Night and day feel! Highly recommend it. By the way Cost-- $0.80
just one on the bottom and one on top of where the bushings used to be.
The Evo 5spd trannys are not particularly good. The first gear syncro is weak, just try to get into first if your road speed is above 45mph, no I'm not talking about dumping at too high a speed here but rather to get some serious controlled engine braking befoe grabbing second from third. Even my 3g eclipse gt was better. The stock linkage isn't the best either.
The upside is that the trans and linkage are adaquate and easy to improve. Just pop out the nylon or bushings and have some metal ones made up by anyone with a lathe. Porous bronze is the material I prefer. The red line lubes are great and really help nurse the syncros.
The clutch and it's hydraulics are another matter. Booo on Mitsu for such a marginal set up there.
The upside is that the trans and linkage are adaquate and easy to improve. Just pop out the nylon or bushings and have some metal ones made up by anyone with a lathe. Porous bronze is the material I prefer. The red line lubes are great and really help nurse the syncros.
The clutch and it's hydraulics are another matter. Booo on Mitsu for such a marginal set up there.
cable shifters will always be "numb" and notchy when compared to a direct or rod shifter. The only car manufacturer that makes great cable shifters is Honda. They shift better than some rod shifters. The synchros in the Evo tranny are really beefy and work great. Its the actual sleeve that engages on the gear that's causing the difficult engagement at times.
Originally posted by WildRice
The Evo 5spd trannys are not particularly good. The first gear syncro is weak, just try to get into first if your road speed is above 45mph,
The Evo 5spd trannys are not particularly good. The first gear syncro is weak, just try to get into first if your road speed is above 45mph,
I hope you know what rev matching is....there's not a problem getting back into first when the tranny is properly warmed up and you rev match....doing that to first then trying to nail it again once you're there is pretty hard on the driveline....Mitsu gave us fine brakes I hear
i changed mine first with a synthetic bad idea that was made my shifts smooth but the car does not call for a synthetic. We put the factory stuff back in it they use DYQUEEN im not sure if that is how u spell it but that stuff is deffinately the best now my shifts are smooth agian.
Originally posted by WildRice
The Evo 5spd trannys are not particularly good. The first gear syncro is weak, just try to get into first if your road speed is above 45mph...
The Evo 5spd trannys are not particularly good. The first gear syncro is weak, just try to get into first if your road speed is above 45mph...
I'm surprised only clutches are failing around here with some of the "ideas" and driving (or lack therof) skills.

