Anybody here use the nitrous front mount intercooler chiller kit ? is it like your typical NOS effect ? is it recommended with stock internals and stock turbos with 97ron gas ?

 

It's nothing like "NOS". It doesn't use nitrous as far as I know as they recommend compressed gas (co2). All it does is lowers the temperature of your intercooler which makes the air a ton colder. Internals, gas, and what not play no factor. It simply just freezes the intercooler.

 

Well yes and no Al and David Buschur have found that the car does ingest n2o through the intake. This as you can imagine is not very good and not the intended effect- needs to be taken into acoount when tuning. Its also an expensive wast as the cooling produced little gains in a properly functioning non heat soaked IC. I wouldnt even do CO2 as the CO2 ingested by the engine will actually reduce performance

 

I have the NX N-tercooler sprayer on my car and it is a great help in the HEAT. Cold nights it still helps but not much. You can either use Nitrus or CO2. Since the nitrus sprays just IN FRONT of the intercooler, you dont need race gas or a built motor. It gave me around 23whp with it on a 90 degree day. I did help me pull a 402whp, 414 lbs tq.

 

Hi ppl ..first post here.. I was lookin for a intake cooler all over the net and ive found 2 brands makin it...: DEI and NX..

Well , i have a non turbocharged car, and of course no intercooler .
I had an idea for coolin the air using a secondary air intake.. like this:

Map sensor --------------------------Main air intake----Air filter
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| | Tubes
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The tube shape is like an "U"...on the secondary channel are cooled by a CO2 serpentine...I was thinking about N2 , but no clue about carrying these tanks..
Well , each side of the tube has like 1 meter... so 2 meter total..
The CO2 ends cooling the radiator ..
CO2 temp is -78.5C ,and N2 temp is -150C...
My question is: is it worthy to give a shot?

Regards from Brazil,

Erico

 

You need to do more research. What even gas you spray on the intercooler with be injested into the intake to some degree. n2o will give you a good performance increase but the amount entering the engine is not metered in any way. That makes it pretty tough to tune for . Even if you can tune for the extra N20, you have a car that runs fat rich when the bottle is empty (they empty very quickly). You run into the same problem with C02 in the intake tract but it just cases misfires because it is non-combustible.

 

Can you explain this? I can't see how the car could ingest nitrous through the intercooler. It's air tight by design. I can understand how some nitrous from an IC sprayer could be ingested through the air filter, but that would be metered and then the MAF should kick in some extra fuel (like a typical small HP dry kit). What am I missing?

 

It gets pulled through the filter. The maf cannot compensate for it as it cannot meter it corectly. All the dry kits I have seen are after the mas and usually very close to the throttle body. The difference is with a dry kit you know how much you are injecting and it is impossible to know how much enters with a sprayer. I will never understand why people do this mod. If you are comfortable running nitrous i the motor then do it the right way and get much more benefit from it. The nitrous entering the intake tract will have a much greater impact on cooling the intake charge not to mention getting more air into the motor.

 

does anyone know if I can just buy the little oval piece that goes in front of the intercooler... and if so where I can find it... I cant seem to find it in the NX catalog or on their site...

-non

 

i read somewhere nos and turbo dont mix well

 

are you joking me nitrous and turbos were made for eachother... many drag racers use nitrous to spool their turbos since they have a bit more lag than the normal ones we use for eveyday driving...

-non

 

Sorry but your the one who needs to do some research on nitrous systems. You seem to only know how a wet kit works. Having the spray bar setup with nitrous is also like having a small dry shot on your car. A dry nitrous setup injects the nitrous into the engine before the mass air meter. The mass air meter will see the cool more dense charge of air and add the needed fuel for the nitrous. So yes the nitrous is metered. And you dont tune for a dry setup, thats whats so easy about it. You just install the fogger and let the cpu add the needed fuel. Now if you want to get into the whole wet vs. dry setup that is a whole nother topic. And just so you know a wet nitrous kit injects the nitrous and fuel after the MAF.

 

EVERYONE PLEASE DISREGARD THIS REPLY. and please stop posting on this topic since you know nothing about nitrous. A dry kit is before the mass air sensor and wet is after the mass air sensor.

 

Hey budy, STFU! Why don't you dig me up a pic of a turbo car than injects nos before the maf/turbo? I have NEVER seen nos injected into the intake before a turbo or intercooler. I have seen plenty of dry kits installed and they have all been after the map sensor, close to the throttle body. So dig it up and find any tuner that states you should plumb nitrous into the system before the turbo. If the maf could meter it correctly then why in the hell would there ever be wet kit or why would they be limited to small hp amounts???
Anyways, the point of my post is to convey that spraying nitrous on your intercooler is just plain stupid and is a waste of time/money. Why don't you read some of the posts on here about it if you won't take my word for it. You'll see that many people agree with me. David Buschur is a pretty smart guy....

 

Dry nitrous oxide systems provide fuel enrichment by increasing the fuel pressure to the fuel injectors as the nitrous system activates.

ZEX™ has designed the ultimate "Smart" Nitrous Oxide System. The ZEX™ "Dry" Nitrous System, using ZEX™'s patented fuel control technology, reads the nitrous bottle pressure and adjusts the fuel enrichment accordingly. If it is a cool day out and the nitrous bottle pressure is around 700 psi range, the nitrous system will add less enrichment than if it is a warm day and the nitrous bottle is at 950 psi. This unique feature ensures that you always have the optimum ratio of nitrous oxide and fuel, never too rich, never too lean. This ensures maximum power and safety at all bottle pressures. Once armed, the kit is activated at wide-open throttle by a programmable electronic sensor that "learns" the voltage curve of your TPS sensor. This design ensures your nitrous oxide is engaged at the perfect throttle point every time. The design of ZEX™ "Dry" Nitrous System makes it the simplest, safest, and easiest to install nitrous oxide kit on the market.

Hmmmmmmmmm...That's straight off Zex/s product description for their dry kits. They seem to say nothing about using the map sensor. I will get others if you like. Other dry kits work in a similar matter. Maybe you saw a picture of an air filter with a nitrous tube attached to it so now you are the nitrous expert. I love you internet smart guys.

A wet kit will inject fuel through the same nozzle as it does the nitrous. A dry kit doesn't add fuel through the nozzle, but through the injectors by raising the fuel pressure of the rail by blocking off the return line while the nitrous solenoids are activated. Does that about cover it you nut sack or should I continue????