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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:28 PM
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BBK XL vs FP Black

Still looking for news on the BBK XL (any idea when this thing is coming out?) and will it compare the the FP Black???
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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:42 PM
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Still looking for news on the BBK XL (any idea when this thing is coming out?) and will it compare the the FP Black???
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the BBK XL is more comparable to the FP Red.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BluEVOIX
If I'm not mistaken, I believe the BBK XL is more comparable to the FP Red.
bingo thats what test i have seen from gst showed awhile ago just faster spool somewhat.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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is this what you were looking for?

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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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Who knows when the BBK xl will be out...and no rockman...the bbk xl made 445 on cbrd mustang dyno...thats right about up to par with the blacks on dynojets.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo01s2k
Who knows when the BBK xl will be out...and no rockman...the bbk xl made 445 on cbrd mustang dyno...thats right about up to par with the blacks on dynojets.
So far we have made 502whp / 481wtq on the BBK-XL beta on our mustang dyno which pretty much reads spot on with Chad's.

We haven't had a Black at the same level to do a good test. However on paper the Black is larger...

- Bryan
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Old May 22, 2010 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbo01s2k
Who knows when the BBK xl will be out...and no rockman...the bbk xl made 445 on cbrd mustang dyno...thats right about up to par with the blacks on dynojets.
ya ok if you say so
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Old May 23, 2010 | 08:19 AM
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So far we have made 502whp / 481wtq on the BBK-XL beta on our mustang dyno which pretty much reads spot on with Chad's.

We haven't had a Black at the same level to do a good test. However on paper the Black is larger...

- Bryan
Pump or e-85???
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Old May 23, 2010 | 11:37 AM
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E-85

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pump or e-85???
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Old May 24, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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FP Black = bigger plain and simple

for the XL- its coming- its being tested so we can plot flow etc (which we havent done before with Blouch)..

will still be completely stock appearing and use stock oil lines etc same price as our current BBK

cb
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Old May 24, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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ahh u guys are killing me! i just bought my bbk full and now i want that once it comes out.

the black is definitely bigger but the bbk xl doesnt require a $200 oil line, and $120 intake and a long *** wait.

i had an fp red and now a bbk full...i loved the red and im sure the fp black is nuts! but the boost in between shifts is so much better now...when i shift the car takes off way quicker than when i had the red.

that the only comparison i can make with the black and the bbk xl....the black will probably make more power but it will be more laggy in between shifts and more laggy in general...
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Old May 24, 2010 | 02:32 PM
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The Oil line is just added insurance, I would run one with any turbo that is going to take a beating. Oil starvation = dead turbo, 100% of the time. As for the intake, you know you can just remove everything, add a filter to the end of it and run speed density...
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Old May 25, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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The Oil line is just added insurance, I would run one with any turbo that is going to take a beating. Oil starvation = dead turbo, 100% of the time. As for the intake, you know you can just remove everything, add a filter to the end of it and run speed density...
No the oil line is required for FP turbos (per FP) due to a different CHRA...
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Old May 25, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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yeah forced performance uses journal bearing turbos that require more oil while CBRD uses ball bearing i believe so the stock oil line is plenty.

Forced performance makes sick turbos but the bbk full xl and the fp black are probably very different....after reading through many of the bbk and fp red/green/black threads...Cbrd turbos are made to be efficient with pump gas and lower boost compared to the fp turbos which like meth and e85....they still do sick with pump gas but they really shine when the boost is really cranked up
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Old May 25, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by evo4life400
yeah forced performance uses journal bearing turbos that require more oil while CBRD uses ball bearing i believe so the stock oil line is plenty.

Forced performance makes sick turbos but the bbk full xl and the fp black are probably very different....after reading through many of the bbk and fp red/green/black threads...Cbrd turbos are made to be efficient with pump gas and lower boost compared to the fp turbos which like meth and e85....they still do sick with pump gas but they really shine when the boost is really cranked up
You sure about this? So far the only "stock appearing housing style" ball bearing turbo I was aware of is the new HKS GTII... Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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