Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Looking for answers for what makes a turbo spool quickly.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:18 PM
  #1  
therunningskier's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Looking for answers for what makes a turbo spool quickly.

Well this may be a noob question but I haven't been able to find anything searching the forums. Well nothing that answers the question with any facts, or reasons why it spools more quickly. I mean obviously I know a big giant turbo will spool later than a smaller turbo, but what can you do to make a giant turbo spool more quickly?

What factors affect a turbo's rate of spool. Or when it starts to fully boost. I know airflow plays a factor, the size of the turbo and wheels, ball bearings, ect ect.

So, what can you do to make a motor/turbo that'll spool as quick as possible?

Any insight would be great.

Again looking more for why a turbo will spool quicker rather than just a dyno plot of a fp red spooling quicker than a GT42R...
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:25 PM
  #2  
ElectrIX Blue's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
From: Texas
ported ex mani, ported head, bigger intercooler, uicp+licp, larger o2 housing, ported head, all of these helps the turbo to spool more quickly.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:30 PM
  #3  
therunningskier's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Florida
How? I mean more air flows through, but is that all it is?
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2010 | 08:31 PM
  #4  
therunningskier's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Florida
What about a ball bearing turbo vs not...
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 03:11 AM
  #5  
ALSTAR's Avatar
Newbie
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
From: New Zealand
Get some more air flowing towards the intake.

Check for leaks.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 03:13 AM
  #6  
MR. EVO MR's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,761
Likes: 4
From: :noitacoL
less psi wga
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 03:23 AM
  #7  
MattC28's Avatar
Newbie
10 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
From: NH
buy a different turbo that spools faster
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 06:30 AM
  #8  
GG06MR's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,176
Likes: 5
From: SATown
Originally Posted by ElectrIX Blue
ported ex mani, ported head, bigger intercooler, uicp+licp, larger o2 housing, all of these helps the turbo to spool more quickly.
All but the bigger intercooler. A bigger intercooler will increase cooling efficiency, but you're going to see some type of reduction in spool.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 09:01 AM
  #9  
therunningskier's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Originally Posted by MattC28
buy a different turbo that spools faster
That's not quite what I am looking for. Same turbo, what can you do to make it spool more quickly.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 09:02 AM
  #10  
therunningskier's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Florida
anything a bit more technical than more air. Or is it really just that simple...
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 09:15 AM
  #11  
BLKCarbonEVO's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 3,463
Likes: 4
From: VaBeach, VA
Originally Posted by ElectrIX Blue
ported ex mani, ported head, bigger intercooler, uicp+licp, larger o2 housing, ported head, all of these helps the turbo to spool more quickly.
Bigger FMIC will reduce spool-up.

MIVEC helps spool, high ramp rate cams increas spool and most of what has alrady been said. Anti-lag helps too Reduce backpressure = increas spool

Mikey
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 10:14 AM
  #12  
38six's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by therunningskier
That's not quite what I am looking for. Same turbo, what can you do to make it spool more quickly.
The answer I believe you are looking for, deals w/ changing the way exhaust flows from the cylinder.
[LIST][*]Twin Scroll Turbo[*]smaller hotside(turbine housing)[*]smaller exhaust manifold (diameter & or runners) [*]cams & tune

note: twin scroll is the only solution that does not affect the total power out put of the turbo. I hope this helps.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:15 AM
  #13  
therunningskier's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Florida
ok maybe this is another dumb question, but, how does a twin scroll better use the exhaust flow from the cylinder?

Is this the same way say a jet engine using 2 stages in the turbine section as opposed to 1 is more effecient and creates more power?

Which turbos are twin scroll as opposed to not twin scroll.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:17 AM
  #14  
compscibOi's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,083
Likes: 2
From: Whorelando, Florida
large volumes of air that are moving fast...

Make the most amount of air move the fastest... that is what will spool a turbo quick.


Smaller turbos, larger exhaust manifolds, better flowing manifolds, ball bearing turbos vs journal bearing.... etc etc etc...... the list goes on...
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2010 | 11:19 AM
  #15  
norcalSRTrida's Avatar
Evolving Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 379
Likes: 0
From: pleasanton, ca
EGT's and cam profile.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:58 AM.