Why we dont use spacers
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Why we dont use spacers
So a common enough question we recieve in regards to the 2.4 based motors we do is why dont we offer a spacer like SBR, MAP, etc. Short answer is every spacer we have seen (to be fair we havent seen a MAP one) from every company that has ever offered them leaks.
Seems like I have a new complaint to list, they grind themselves up apparently-
The waterpump had no shaft play, the gaskets were dripping (remember there are two of them), someone had doped it up good with RTV and it still leaked. We pulled it apart to replace with an ER modified 2.0L pump and saw this.
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aaron
Seems like I have a new complaint to list, they grind themselves up apparently-
The waterpump had no shaft play, the gaskets were dripping (remember there are two of them), someone had doped it up good with RTV and it still leaked. We pulled it apart to replace with an ER modified 2.0L pump and saw this.
Discuss
aaron
Been using ours for awhile without any problems like this. I obviously recommend using a factory gasket between the spacer and the waterpump. RTV doesn't provide much "spacing" as much as the OEM 1mm+ gasket would. Not to mention a possible non-level surface, which looks like it could of happened in the picture you show above. Seeing as the grinding is more concetrated to one side versus the other, however that could just be from it grinding away enough material to unbalance it.
Like I said, we been using ours without any issues. I also just texted my customer that I know is replacing his SBR block with one of our 2.4L blocks and was using the MAP spacer for about 6 months now and he reported it looking just like it did when new.
Like I said, we been using ours without any issues. I also just texted my customer that I know is replacing his SBR block with one of our 2.4L blocks and was using the MAP spacer for about 6 months now and he reported it looking just like it did when new.
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Modified stock pump, no spacer.
Chris,
I am sure most of this was installation. It did have 2 gaskets on it actually. The main issue is it gets spaced too far then the belt is not properly aligned. I am not really sure what started the problem with this pump but its fixed now. It was originally built by a shop that is no longer in business so where it came from and the quality of their work is not worthwhile to talk about. I havent ever seen a spacer not end up leaking of the brands we have seen.
Like I said, we havent seen any of your spacers though and I am not saying that all of them will do this but its one more thing that makes me not like spacers. If only the rumors of a factory waterpump that works were true
aaron
Been using ours for awhile without any problems like this. I obviously recommend using a factory gasket between the spacer and the waterpump. RTV doesn't provide much "spacing" as much as the OEM 1mm+ gasket would. Not to mention a possible non-level surface, which looks like it could of happened in the picture you show above. Seeing as the grinding is more concetrated to one side versus the other, however that could just be from it grinding away enough material to unbalance it.
Like I said, we been using ours without any issues. I also just texted my customer that I know is replacing his SBR block with one of our 2.4L blocks and was using the MAP spacer for about 6 months now and he reported it looking just like it did when new.
Like I said, we been using ours without any issues. I also just texted my customer that I know is replacing his SBR block with one of our 2.4L blocks and was using the MAP spacer for about 6 months now and he reported it looking just like it did when new.
I am sure most of this was installation. It did have 2 gaskets on it actually. The main issue is it gets spaced too far then the belt is not properly aligned. I am not really sure what started the problem with this pump but its fixed now. It was originally built by a shop that is no longer in business so where it came from and the quality of their work is not worthwhile to talk about. I havent ever seen a spacer not end up leaking of the brands we have seen.
Like I said, we havent seen any of your spacers though and I am not saying that all of them will do this but its one more thing that makes me not like spacers. If only the rumors of a factory waterpump that works were true
aaron
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ive modifies the the stock pump.....just got the machine shop to weld some alloy where it needs sealing to the block ........ive done it twice with no leaks....and yeh it does shred serp belts with a spacer.....a mate of mine had this same issue, but he had no leaks and put in 5pk belt instead of the stock 6pk.....that also worked
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Joined: Jan 2004
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From: Northwest
ive modifies the the stock pump.....just got the machine shop to weld some alloy where it needs sealing to the block ........ive done it twice with no leaks....and yeh it does shred serp belts with a spacer.....a mate of mine had this same issue, but he had no leaks and put in 5pk belt instead of the stock 6pk.....that also worked