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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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DynoFlash mail-in question?

To take advantage of the $199 mail in offer from Dyno flash, is it ok to have it done before I get these pieces installed?

And does anyone with the dynoflash have the axel back on their Evo? Or a downpipe?

After reading soooo much good about the dynoflash, and nothing bad, I have all but made my mind up to get this over the Works P2 reflash. Im sure there are many out there thinking the same thing. What a deal if these two reflashes are basically the same thing.

I havnt recieved my exhale yet and want to take advantage of this great offer from Dynoflash.

Any advise would be great, and thanks Alot!!!!
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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Just let Al know what you're planning on adding on and he'll tweek it accordingly.

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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by WILDMAN
Just let Al know what you're planning on adding on and he'll tweek it accordingly.

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true dat
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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Ok Ill call Al Tommorow,,,,,, just thought someone would have these mods on before or after they got their dynoflash.

Also just kinda looking for some more feedback on dyno flash Vs. Works.

Anyone out there?
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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I have the mail reflash and an exhale pipe. No problems here. I also added a K&N drop in filter. I let Al know I have these and also running 91 octane. With the P2, you will have to replace a hose which is time consuming and tedious and with Dynoflash, just plug in the ECU and you're done.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Hey Sincity, how is that exhale working for you, any noticable gains? How much better does your car pull with these, and did you get them both at the same time, or add the exhale after your flash?

Im going to try my damndest to get this ecu removed next week myself, Im by no means autoenclined, but I will give it my best shot. I guess the plug adaptors are the tuffest to get part.

From what I have been reading Al knows his ****, and is heads above the rest with no problems and big gains in power with his reflash.

I wonder if weather conditions have anything to do with his reflash. I live in an area where it can be 105 in the summer and -15 in the winter.

If I can do this ecu removal myself it wont be a real big deal if I have to send my ecu back to him for mods I do in the future.

Would be nice if he would list mods that you would need to send in for a reflash.

Thanks for your response!
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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Well, I had the exhale for several months before the flash. I did not feel any gain with just the exhale except for the upper RPM ranges. It probably added some HP. I am waiting on the other pipe from WORKS to complete the catback. But I mainly got it for weight savings and it's very easy to put on. It sounds good also.

Removing the ECU is very easy. Disconnect the battery first, then remove the glove box, unbolt a couple 10 MM bolts, the ecu just drops down, and unplug. You wont even get your hands dirty.

Weather plays a big part in performance. I also live where it gets to 110 or better in the summer. The car feels totally different. Now here in the winter where it's about 50, the car really moves. I don't think the temp has any effect on the flash, but let Al know what octane gas you are using.

But by far, the biggest difference was when I got the reflash. It transforms the car. Power is smooth, linear, turbo spools quicker and holds boost. Car pulls well. It's well worth the money. I also then added a K&N panel filter. I heard it's good for about 5 HP and it has been confirmed on the dyno. Do a search.

You don't need any mods for a reflash, you can be bone stock. So you can put on the exhale now or after the reflash. Remember, the reflash through the mail is not as aggressive as the dyno tune done on site. So no "big" gains, but a nice healthy 15 to 20 whp and a safe tune. Good luck.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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You really need to call David at the WORKS and get the straight story on the gains produced by P1 and P2.

Rick
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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Re: DynoFlash mail-in question?

Originally posted by silvrevo
To take advantage of the $199 mail in offer from Dyno flash, is it ok to have it done before I get these pieces installed?

And does anyone with the dynoflash have the axel back on their Evo? Or a downpipe?

After reading soooo much good about the dynoflash, and nothing bad, I have all but made my mind up to get this over the Works P2 reflash. Im sure there are many out there thinking the same thing. What a deal if these two reflashes are basically the same thing.

I havnt recieved my exhale yet and want to take advantage of this great offer from Dynoflash.

Any advise would be great, and thanks Alot!!!!
I've got the Buschur Muffler Delete Pipe - $160
On a stock and flashed car you will notice DECREASED performance (if you are running a muffler delete pipe e.g., works exhahle, or the Buschur) UNTIL you get a BOOST CONTROLLER. MBC for $50-$75 bucks will do the trick.

With the boost near 20 psi, reflash, and a DP, your Evo should be close to 300 awhp.

4-BNGR
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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Re: Re: DynoFlash mail-in question?

Originally posted by 4-BNGR


I've got the Buschur Muffler Delete Pipe - $160
On a stock and flashed car you will notice DECREASED performance (if you are running a muffler delete pipe e.g., works exhahle, or the Buschur) UNTIL you get a BOOST CONTROLLER. MBC for $50-$75 bucks will do the trick.

With the boost near 20 psi, reflash, and a DP, your Evo should be close to 300 awhp.

4-BNGR
This is incorrect as far as the WORKS Exhale is concerned. We saw consistent gains of 10 whp on a stock Evo with nothing else done to it but an Exhale bolted on in the place of the factory muffler However, as I have said time and time again, the Exhale is primarily a throttle response modification. By doing away with the restrictive internal flapper door on the stock muffler, the overall responsiveness of the motor to throttle inputs -- including turbo spool time -- is greatly increased.

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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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Hummmm,, I dont get it. I have heard two different stories regarding exhausts systems? Both they gain power aznd loose power? A cat back will give you what 15-20whp? And a axel back is suppose to give you around 5 with better throttle improvement?

Hummm I might just decide to just get the dynoflash , and then go from there?
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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Re: Re: Re: DynoFlash mail-in question?

Originally posted by DavidV@WORKS


This is incorrect as far as the WORKS Exhale is concerned. We saw consistent gains of 10 whp on a stock Evo with nothing else done to it but an Exhale bolted on in the place of the factory muffler However, as I have said time and time again, the Exhale is primarily a throttle response modification. By doing away with the restrictive internal flapper door on the stock muffler, the overall responsiveness of the motor to throttle inputs -- including turbo spool time -- is greatly increased.

-- DavidV
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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As an end user of the Exhale AB I can tell you that there was no lost performance either before or after the flash. I road tested the Exhale both before and after the P1 was installed and also tested the Pruven AB after the P1.

Results with the Exhale prior to the flash were similar to SinCity’s, results after the flash were noticeable better with both ABs with the Exhale edging out the Pruven AB. But then one is a muffler and one is a muffler delete so the differences seemed fair and reasonable.

Rick
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by silvrevo
Hey Sincity, how is that exhale working for you, any noticable gains? How much better does your car pull with these, and did you get them both at the same time, or add the exhale after your flash?

Im going to try my damndest to get this ecu removed next week myself, Im by no means autoenclined, but I will give it my best shot. I guess the plug adaptors are the tuffest to get part.

From what I have been reading Al knows his ****, and is heads above the rest with no problems and big gains in power with his reflash.

I wonder if weather conditions have anything to do with his reflash. I live in an area where it can be 105 in the summer and -15 in the winter.

If I can do this ecu removal myself it wont be a real big deal if I have to send my ecu back to him for mods I do in the future.

Would be nice if he would list mods that you would need to send in for a reflash.

Thanks for your response!
Call me anytime at 203-515-4110 and I'll walk you thorugh the procedure for takeing out the ecu safely
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Re: Re: DynoFlash mail-in question?

Originally posted by 4-BNGR


I've got the Buschur Muffler Delete Pipe - $160
On a stock and flashed car you will notice DECREASED performance (if you are running a muffler delete pipe e.g., works exhahle, or the Buschur) UNTIL you get a BOOST CONTROLLER. MBC for $50-$75 bucks will do the trick.

With the boost near 20 psi, reflash, and a DP, your Evo should be close to 300 awhp.

4-BNGR
I have the Buschure Muffler Delete Pipe and was Dynoflashed with it on. I gained HP but lost boost. With the AEM intake, Buschur delete pipe and Dynoflash I am producing 265whp with around 15-16psi sustained with a very brief jump to 19 (not too bad whp with less boost ). Before the pipe I was at 19 for a little bit longer then 16-17 sustained.

I can't wait to get a boost controller to max it to 19 sustained
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