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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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My 93 octane pump gas dyno sheet - 20 psi - 417 whp

MP5 and others reminded me that was supposed to post up a pump gas dyno sheet to see what could make on a street set up

I am runnng the AEM set up now and it starts to misfire when i go over 20 psi of boost - (AEM is working on a hardwear fix which should be done ny Monday) - in the mean time I wanted to show you guys what my set up can do on 20 psi and regular 93 octane fuel

BTW - the AEM is a great set up - just very timne consuming to get set up properly. It took me a solid 10 days of hard work to get it running this smooth - but it is very smooth now so long as I do not step up the boost

This was with 11 degrees of timing and zero detonation
I am not interested in going further than this on pump gas as I feel it is not a smart way to operate a car with engine mods - good gas is cheap and I will be running 100 octane unleaded - however - I wanted to get this done both to shut up the critics and to satisfy my own curiosity as to how much these Evos can make on pump gas

I think you will admit is a very nice looking dyno sheet and very smooth - even though I tuned it on the street and only made ONE pull on the dyno
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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Looks good, only thing I would change is have peak power a little more up on the power band. Nice job Al
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Looks good, only thing I would change is have peak power a little more up on the power band. Nice job Al
Thanks ! Did not think I could make that much power safely on pump gas - but inspried by Pesto and gang I found out something new
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 03:00 PM
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Re: My 93 octane pump gas dyno sheet - 20 psi - 417 whp

Originally posted by DynoFlash
MP5 and others reminded me that was supposed to post up a pump gas dyno sheet to see what could make on a street set up

I am runnng the AEM set up now and it starts to misfire when i go over 20 psi of boost - (AEM is working on a hardwear fix which should be done ny Monday) - in the mean time I wanted to show you guys what my set up can do on 20 psi and regular 93 octane fuel

BTW - the AEM is a great set up - just very timne consuming to get set up properly. It took me a solid 10 days of hard work to get it running this smooth - but it is very smooth now so long as I do not step up the boost

This was with 11 degrees of timing and zero detonation
I am not interested in going further than this on pump gas as I feel it is not a smart way to operate a car with engine mods - good gas is cheap and I will be running 100 octane unleaded - however - I wanted to get this done both to shut up the critics and to satisfy my own curiosity as to how much these Evos can make on pump gas

I think you will admit is a very nice looking dyno sheet and very smooth - even though I tuned it on the street and only made ONE pull on the dyno
Props Al. I do respect your efforts and accomplishments weve talked you know that. We but heads on a few things but I wont address them anymore as I am the one that gets the warnings( I shoulda thought to give out free stuff ) Otherwise good luck to you - 1 things for sure were too damn much alike well cept your faster
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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Re: Re: My 93 octane pump gas dyno sheet - 20 psi - 417 whp

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Props Al. I do respect your efforts and accomplishments weve talked you know that. We but heads on a few things but I wont address them anymore as I am the one that gets the warnings( I shoulda thought to give out free stuff ) Otherwise good luck to you - 1 things for sure were too damn much alike well cept your faster
Thanks MP5

BTW - I almost forgot to mention my newest toy - the amazing bolt in Ultimate Racing high flow 3" cat - that thing did not cost me even one whp - and made the car quieter

Also - it spools up better - that is not a bad spool up for a 3037
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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Very nice numbers, your car must fly Since I am new to the list would you mind posting all the mods needed to acheive your power.

Also, it seems to me that 11deg of advance isn't very much I think most 4G63 DSM guys run more like 16-20deg @ WOT? Any reason for the difference?

Thanks
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Very nice numbers, your car must fly Since I am new to the list would you mind posting all the mods needed to acheive your power.

Also, it seems to me that 11deg of advance isn't very much I think most 4G63 DSM guys run more like 16-20deg @ WOT? Any reason for the difference?

Thanks
I f you do a search under my screen name you will find my 575 whp thread where I list the mods

It is damm fast on the road for sure - and nice to know with the built motor I could run it this fast all day and night and I am well within significant margins of saftey

Here is the same set up with 100 octane unleaded, 13 degrees of timing and 24 psi of boost with my Dyno Flash
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 07:55 PM
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I would also like to see a list of the mods on this car. thanks
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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I would also like to see a list of the mods on this car. thanks
Here is the link


https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...hlight=575+whp

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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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This dyno sheet was with a 35 shot of nos and the ntercooler and 100 octane fuel
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Re: Re: Re: My 93 octane pump gas dyno sheet - 20 psi - 417 whp

Originally posted by DynoFlash
Thanks MP5

BTW - I almost forgot to mention my newest toy - the amazing bolt in Ultimate Racing high flow 3" cat - that thing did not cost me even one whp - and made the car quieter
congrats on the great numbers...thisnk about it..thats abn honest 520-540 crank horsepower...Ive been looking for a quieter exhaust...we basically have the same setup andI cannot believe how loud it is....I even threw on another resonator..nothing...how much quieter would u say? ( IM running an RMR exhaust) Im also having the same issues with AEM...but Im hearing that Microtech doesnt have the same issues with the excess draw on the drivers and overall its a better system...Im lookign into it and Im just very pissed AEM released this system without perfecting it or even doing R&D before giving it out and depended on feedback from the guys who were doing the installs just so they could be the first to release a stand alone..

btw i blew up my HKS turbo (actually I didnt blow it up...it went on the dyno..will find out soon why) so between my turbo exploding and your exhaust manifold cracking... Im ****canning the whole HKS setup and going with the full SFP.net kit...which should yield me that magic 500whp with aqumist...
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sorry

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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My 93 octane pump gas dyno sheet - 20 psi - 417 whp

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congrats on the great numbers...thisnk about it..thats abn honest 520-540 crank horsepower...Ive been looking for a quieter exhaust...we basically have the same setup andI cannot believe how loud it is....I even threw on another resonator..nothing...how much quieter would u say? ( IM running an RMR exhaust) Im also having the same issues with AEM...but Im hearing that Microtech doesnt have the same issues with the excess draw on the drivers and overall its a better system...Im lookign into it and Im just very pissed AEM released this system without perfecting it or even doing R&D before giving it out and depended on feedback from the guys who were doing the installs just so they could be the first to release a stand alone..

btw i blew up my HKS turbo (actually I didnt blow it up...it went on the dyno..will find out soon why) so between my turbo exploding and your exhaust manifold cracking... Im ****canning the whole HKS setup and going with the full SFP.net kit...which should yield me that magic 500whp with aqumist...

I had the same problems with the RMR exhuast - it was loud

Now I have the Perrin with a 3" UR high flow cat and its livable - I was getting pulled over by too many cops and having them ask me whats a old fart like you doing driving a F & F loud machine like this ? Anyway - try the 3" high flow cat - NO loss of power and big gains down low

ON AEM - they don;t even have a damm test evo ! I could not believe that they were sending the re-worked EMS to Frank (your guy at SFP ) to test on Friday - thats a joke when they are using outside shops to do the testing. I am sorry but even a lightweight like myself does R & D before selling. Basically they are going to have to rework the ign system on all the boards out there now - and we are stuck with punk *** power till they fix it. Funny how you and I both reach the same hp point before we hit the misfire

As for the turbo - HKS does have its issues - BUT - its a very well thought out set up and it is very streetable and drivable

Sorry your turbo blew up - I have heard of that going before - I hope your engine is OK


BTW - You were right about how much power you can make on pump gas - I did not think it was possible - BUT - the power was there and I could have made at least 30 more whp if the damm AEM wasn't missing with more boost ! Its not something I would do all the time (I prefer having 100 octane as a margin of saftey) but its nice to know you can smoke a porsche turbo with ease on the same pump gas they are using !
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: My 93 octane pump gas dyno sheet - 20 psi - 417 whp

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I had the same problems with the RMR exhuast - it was loud

Now I have the Perrin with a 3" UR high flow cat and its livable - I was getting pulled over by too many cops and having them ask me whats a old fart like you doing driving a F & F loud machine like this ? Anyway - try the 3" high flow cat - NO loss of power and big gains down low

ON AEM - they don;t even have a damm test evo ! I could not believe that they were sending the re-worked EMS to Frank (your guy at SFP ) to test on Friday - thats a joke when they are using outside shops to do the testing. I am sorry but even a lightweight like myself does R & D before selling. Basically they are going to have to rework the ign system on all the boards out there now - and we are stuck with punk *** power till they fix it. Funny how you and I both reach the same hp point before we hit the misfire

As for the turbo - HKS does have its issues - BUT - its a very well thought out set up and it is very streetable and drivable

Sorry your turbo blew up - I have heard of that going before - I hope your engine is OK


BTW - You were right about how much power you can make on pump gas - I did not think it was possible - BUT - the power was there and I could have made at least 30 more whp if the damm AEM wasn't missing with more boost !
One more hint of a problem with this AEM....and Im **** canning it too....Im so pissed at this point...my turbo exploding was just the frosting on the cake...we still arent 100% sure the AEM works so dont let anyone bull**** you over at AEM...my turbo went before we could really turn the boost up...AEM if youre listening you have one more shot or you lost a customer who has a really BIG mouth...this is like week 4 now...and two dyno visits...I just cant believe frank at sfp has been so patient with them...Id liek to see them refund (make that GIVE the AEM to customers like me who suffered)...if I knew my car was a ****ing mule I would have got the aem for free..and FREE TUNING!! u know what ....just writing this pisses me off..Im calling them monday...ill keep everyone updated
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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Hold on a second...Al Im not trying to hijack your thread and I apologize if it appears this way...if a turboed car breaks up on revs under high boost can it cause the impeller to come apart? therefore now Im left with pieces of a turbo? You know more about this stuff than I do...and I dont think Frank would appreciate a call from me at this hour asking him
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