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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 12:23 PM
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Clueless, because id like alittle bit more knowledge.. okay? when most of the threads on here are either people trying to talk ****, think they know everything (you) or talking about a part and not going into detail of what its about or does.. so how about you just learn to help not ridicule. and fyi its ignorance not ignorant.
First off, most threads on here aren't people talking ****. I would argue all day long that this is the most productive car forum on the internet filled with more talent and knowledge than any other by a long shot. Given that, there is a ton of information on here and the forum moves fast. Most of us on here know the acronyms and are familiar with what has happened in the past which gives us an advantage when reading threads and understanding them fully. I have been where you have in other forums on other subjects and sometimes it is overwhelming to know where to start. Prepare to read a lot to learn what is going on and when you go into a sub-forum, make sure to check out all of the 'stickys' at the top of the page to see if what you are looking for may be answered there. Also don't make comments like 'learn to help' to other members who have been around for a while. We're not here to cater to you and every noob who wants the forum to start from 2002 again. If you ask reasonable questions that haven't been beaten to death, you will find much assistance on this site.

There are tons of new people signing up everyday, you can't expect the forum to sit around a coach each person through where to find information that is readily available for them. I'm sure if what you were after was not information on a turbo but some form of ****, you'd have found it already . I kid, I kid. But seriously, you know how to use the internet. Take advantage of the plethora of information on here by searching for what you are looking to learn about. As a noob, anything you ask has been beaten to death, guaranteed.

"A little learning is a dang'rous thing;
Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
And drinking largely sobers us again."......
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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P.S. - The BBK's are excellent turbos. Chad @ CBRD makes them and is a great guy to deal with. I run a lot of parts from him and have always been completely satisfied with my dealings there.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Sorry Sir, but the BBk is made by Blouch Turbo... not CBRD

Originally Posted by Boltz.
P.S. - The BBK's are excellent turbos. Chad @ CBRD makes them and is a great guy to deal with. I run a lot of parts from him and have always been completely satisfied with my dealings there.
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by acssa
Sorry Sir, but the BBk is made by Blouch Turbo... not CBRD
Okay Mr. BBK hater; there is no secret that Blouch machines the housings and balances the turbo's for CBRD, but the bottom line is it is a CBRD product. If what you are saying was true, you could call Blouch and buy a BBK, but you can't. They'd tell you to call CBRD.

Would you say that AMS' turbo kit isn't made by AMS because they don't do the castings in-house and they use precision turbos? I think not.

Find elsewhere to troll, you're adding nothing productive here.

P.S. - When speaking to someone with no knowledge of the subject, you tell them where to buy the turbo, not where it is assembled. If someone asked you who makes the iphone and where to get one, would you point them to a Chinese factory?
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Boltz.
Okay Mr. BBK hater; there is no secret that Blouch machines the housings and balances the turbo's for CBRD, but the bottom line is it is a CBRD product. If what you are saying was true, you could call Blouch and buy a BBK, but you can't. They'd tell you to call CBRD.

Would you say that AMS' turbo kit isn't made by AMS because they don't do the castings in-house and they use precision turbos? I think not.

Find elsewhere to troll, you're adding nothing productive here.

P.S. - When speaking to someone with no knowledge of the subject, you tell them where to buy the turbo, not where it is assembled. If someone asked you who makes the iphone and where to get one, would you point them to a Chinese factory?

He just got owned. well played.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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So why does Blouch handle the warranty when the BBK turbo failed? I bought 2 BBK full turbos and both failed... 2 different cars.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 07:33 AM
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I had 2 BBK full turbos fail, and the turbo performance was great... but it did not last that long. I dont hate a BBK I just like a turbo to last a bit longer.
One turbo +-2000 miles and the other 18 000 miles.

other than you I dont blow smoke up anyones ***...

Originally Posted by Boltz.
Okay Mr. BBK hater; there is no secret that Blouch machines the housings and balances the turbo's for CBRD, but the bottom line is it is a CBRD product. If what you are saying was true, you could call Blouch and buy a BBK, but you can't. They'd tell you to call CBRD.

Would you say that AMS' turbo kit isn't made by AMS because they don't do the castings in-house and they use precision turbos? I think not.

Find elsewhere to troll, you're adding nothing productive here.

P.S. - When speaking to someone with no knowledge of the subject, you tell them where to buy the turbo, not where it is assembled. If someone asked you who makes the iphone and where to get one, would you point them to a Chinese factory?

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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by acssa
I had 2 BBK full turbos fail, and the turbo performance was great... but it did not last that long. I dont hate a BBK I just like a turbo to last a bit longer.
One turbo +-2000 miles and the other 18 000 miles.

other than you I dont blow smoke up anyones ***...
WOW, you must have a problem with oiling or something.

I would care to say I have maybe the most mileage on a BBK Full, over 41K

Anyway, to the OP. Lots of info out here. Spend the time to research and get what works.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 07:51 AM
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I'd post a random TBR pic in this thread, but it's not worth it.

OP: Go do your homework and stop trolling.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 08:12 AM
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sigh-

now we are discussing someone who admitted they had boost leaks and such and lines that were blowing off- and had a turbo failure-

here we go again-

anyway,

thanks for your explanation boltz---

as mentioned above-- if you have an AMS kit and a precision turbo on it- if the turbo fails- do you think AMS does the inspection on it- uh no- precision does-

Speaking of AMS- ask them whose evo 8/9/X turbo they recommend

cb
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 08:29 AM
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one turbo had a boost pipe coming off... due to engine movement. Other one did not...
Used Garret gt..r turbos and never a single failure... leaks of no leaks.

So for info... if you buy a turbo you should understant that a leak can happen. Like a water leak... unlike a water leak the boost leak you cant see... no missing water etc.

The problem is not the leak... it is actually related to turn speed of the shaft. Hence you get rpm sensors for turbos.

So if you want to use any turbo the "manufacturer" should be able to supply the way or means of installing a speed sensor... and you should have a peak RPM counter to warn you.
It is also a problem for a turbo to cope with high boost at high altitudes... this also cause over speeding and failures.

turbos should be selected with this in mind... max boost you want and if you will boost it like that by default. You should also should keep in mind the altitude... relative vs boost pressure is 1 vs .85. Then you should look at the max rpm the turbo is spec'ed at what boost and balance your decision with at least a 10% safety margin.

I have used this method and have not lost a turbo since... running a total of 4 cars... 2 off them BMW 335 circuit race cars.

http://www.productioncars.co.za/gall...arney211_7.JPG

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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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I'm sure other people have me beat in terms of miles on a BBK, but I have 8+ track days and 15k miles on my BBK-Full with no problems at all so far. It's a badass turbo.
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by blackenedwings
You are too nice Chad!
I was thinking the same thing!!!
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
Lol
hahaha

Not off to a good start
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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heres my 0.02 new guy im not gonna be a dick but ill be informative, troll around the engine turbo drivetrain thread, read threads that are related to turbos, decide what kinda spool or lag you want in your quest for a certain # your after, then go to the dyno area threads see how much those type of turbos are putting out hp/tq wise with similar type of gas your gonna feed the engine aka pump gas, vp or e85 depending on your area and see if those fall inline with what you want. Then budget your money for more then that, because you need supporting mods unless you already have those. So in the end shoot for somethin reasonable (sub 400 to start) because not to lie you might spend thousands more then you thought on a number that in reality will make u almost pee your pants when you get on it.
Cant be much nicer or informative then that.
Good luck happy boosting.
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