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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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^^When the system fails. I'd prefer not to add the complexity.
Complexity? Wow really? Seems more like lazyness to me, speically since the system I suggested comes with a failsafe. Light goes on you refill it. I mean it doesn't get more simple then that. Yellow bottle heet goes on sale during the summer because its a winter product. It is mainly 99% meth.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:30 AM
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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IDK like stated above I would think you would be closer to 400. I am on the stock snail and i should hit 400 on my next dyno tune.

I would have someone check out your tune see if you can pull more timing or add more fuel.. Seems a bit conservative to me right now where you are at.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Definitely need a good tubular ex manifold, like the map long runner or the jmf/cbrd ex mani, next up ported intake mani like a rev3 and a mil.spec tb. also get a o2 dump like what map has or jmf, and finally like everyone had been saying get a cop system.
Those kelford killer cams could also be suspect, reese has shown gains on his own dyno, probably by using cntrl x I would ditch them and get proven ones like the gsc s2's
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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You definetly need a new tunner. With those mods you should be close if not over your goal.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ct9asilver
Definitely need a good tubular ex manifold, like the map long runner or the jmf/cbrd ex mani, next up ported intake mani like a rev3 and a mil.spec tb. also get a o2 dump like what map has or jmf, and finally like everyone had been saying get a cop system.
Those kelford killer cams could also be suspect, reese has shown gains on his own dyno, probably by using cntrl x I would ditch them and get proven ones like the gsc s2's
I like the tubular mani idea but un needed, along with the o2 dump and there is nothing wrong with Kelford cams man.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by EV0L-IX-MR
You definetly need a new tunner. With those mods you should be close if not over your goal.
Glad you said that because that is what I was gonna say next. My old setup with a stock turbo 93+ meth I made 375 with a terrible tune. Tom took over same setup made 400 plus before I killed my turbo to to my error.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cursedsm
I like the tubular mani idea but un needed, along with the o2 dump and there is nothing wrong with Kelford cams man.
Never said anything was wrong with kelford cams, I said his kelford killer cams were bad, did you read which cams he has? thinking a tubular mani and o2 dump is un needed is the reason why he hasn't reached his goal our at least got cost to it, every little mod counts no matter how miniscule. The op hasn't said if he wants to be over 400 on a md or dj, big difference with the mods he has right now he will NOT get to 400 on a proper reading mustang dyno using 91, with the mods I mentioned he will get closer though, about 375ish.

The op probably doesn't know this or maybe he does but he's at 390-400 awhp right now, dj numbers.

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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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To respond to some of your suggestions. I want to be able to do it on a mustang dyno. I chose to stick with the ported stock manifold and non-dump o2 because I am trying to not lost any spool and be hidden from cops' eyes. Spool and stock frame were the reasons why I picked the HKS turbo in the first place. I don't want a O2 dump cuz of the noise (personal preference). I just got the cams last week so it would be a bummer to switch out. I'll give these cam a try for now. The COP sounds like a win win so I'll add that to the list.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ct9asilver
Never said anything was wrong with kelford cams, I said his kelford killer cams were bad, did you read which cams he has?
I must have misread what you were saying my bad on that. I did read but it was a while ago when I first posted. I thought you were bashing the Kelfords themselves.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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Then it's gonna be impossible, to hit that number on a md with those mods unless you change your fuel because 91 won't cut it, especially with that turbo. The bbk full could possibly do it. I live cali too but I'm not gonna let the cops tell me what not to buy with the money I work for, if you don't drive like a jerk you have nothing to worry about.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ct9asilver
Then it's gonna be impossible, to hit that number on a md with those mods unless you change your fuel because 91 won't cut it, especially with that turbo. The bbk full could possibly do it. I live cali too but I'm not gonna let the cops tell me what not to buy with the money I work for, if you don't drive like a jerk you have nothing to worry about.
Very true, and after reading what I have read about Reese yeah I would take off everything they have and buy better. I am not a huge fan of Buschurs but I give the guy credit for what he has done over the years. People stealing ideas, copying this and that and really haven't proven anything just don't fly with me.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 12:32 PM
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well these guys recommended an intake mani and tb, which should help but it wont give u 60 hp not on a mustang dyno, your best bet is to setup a map switch with your tuner and go e85, you live in san diego, most places have that, ive got a similar setup to you, and i made 410 hp on a dynojet in summer 107 weather on 91, change your gas and add those two parts, imo that hks turbo is good, but its designed for quick spool and a bit better then stock turbo punch, but 340 on a mustang isnt bad, your prolly around 380ish on a dynojet give or take. Thats my 0.02 dont do meth, it sounds worth it, but comparing money spent to what u need to spend to make that work, and the more issues with meth then e85, n ull see why its definitely a poor mans race gas, but gives you a lot more room to grow with.
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 06:02 PM
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definitely get a new tune... Reese is shady
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Old Dec 11, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dastallion951
Thats my 0.02 dont do meth, it sounds worth it, but comparing money spent to what u need to spend to make that work, and the more issues with meth then e85, n ull see why its definitely a poor mans race gas, but gives you a lot more room to grow with.
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Ok I would like to know being I have run both e85 and meth. What issues do you have or people have running meth? I ran it hard for over a year without any issues what so ever. Now I won't deny that e85 will make you more power, but if it isn't redily available such as he said it wasn't then why not run it. The amount of a good meth kit is about 450 bucks give or take. For that price sure you can get a tb, or one other thing for that price range. I just don't see why people don't like the meth. I have heard it is dangerious, sure if you run 100% meth all the time. 50/50 mix is more then you would need to gain you the power you would need, it will allow you to also run a few more degrees of timing, and its everywhere. You can go to any store where they sell Heet and distilled water with no issues what so ever.
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