4inch Downpipe & 4inch Aluminum Exhaust
1) OP is looking upgrade from his un optimized perrin tbe to this new 4'' setup. and considering he's running a recirculated o2, I think he will see some gains.
2) Tough to compare STM to this one, as the weight difference is great.
3) He's also looking to optimize his setup by maintaining the same power at lower psi, I think its smart. will see if this works out for him. Assuming spark will remain the same.
One think I am cautious of is the use of Al for the downpipe, since the egt's are probably highest at the exit of the hotside, i wonder how much heat will al dissipate into the engine bay. I have seen Megan/ebay manifolds glow red on the dyno's and they are steal. I assume the al tubing is used probably thinner, hence the potential big weight saving. I believe FFP posted a pic off thier dyno few yrs back with a megan glowing red.
I completely agree with your reasoning here. Now the question is "Why is this true?" My understanding is that once hot exhaust gases leave the turbine they immediately want to expand outward. If the turbine wheel is 3inches tip-to-tip and the outlet diameter on the housing is 3inches, and then the downpipe is the same size, the gases will not be able to expand until they exit at the tail-pipe.
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2. Did you notice that the downpipe is actually made out of 304 stainless?
and I stand corrected, missed the 304 ss (not sure how!)
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Yeah, that's pretty light, if you are correct. At that weight it doesn't surprise me at all that they went that fast. You saw what my notchback mustang weighed and how fast it went at only 670hp.
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Ha. The only drawback from doing a larger exhaust is ground/diff clearance...and weight.
But if you make it out of Titanium or Aluminum... you've just negated one of the two things
I'd recommend using Titanium, but Aluminum sure is cheap!
But if you make it out of Titanium or Aluminum... you've just negated one of the two things

I'd recommend using Titanium, but Aluminum sure is cheap!
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gonna be finish-welding everything in a little while. Snapped a few more pics. Got the new tip on the car. Its about an 1.5inches longer than the first one and fits better as you can see in the pic below. Also, notice the hangers we used - not welded directly to the pipes. Instead they use band clamps to hold the exhaust system in place. Of course, I'm sure someone will find something wrong with these clamps because they're not normal....LOL!!!
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I've always liked the idea of a 4" DP. While it may not make much, if any, power for most Evos over a 3" exhaust, it can only help spoolup. I really wish someone would do some back-to-back testing between a 3"DP into a 3" exhaust and a 4"DP into a 3" exhaust to see if there is a noticeable difference in spool. Even if it was just 100 RPM, I'd be all over it.
Just out of curiosity, why not go with a larger diameter dump pipe? If the goal is to get performance as close to a straight dump as possible, then looking at your setup, I'd guess the biggest restriction will be the WG dump pipe.
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Just out of curiosity, why not go with a larger diameter dump pipe? If the goal is to get performance as close to a straight dump as possible, then looking at your setup, I'd guess the biggest restriction will be the WG dump pipe.
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We finished welding the exhaust last night. Also decided to redo the charge-piping in aluminum as well. Here's a few more pics.
BTW, we ended up weighing the aluminum piping and the Perrin exhaust taken off the car. We used a simple household scale you would use to weigh yourself. Stand on the scale to get your weight, then hold each piece individually and subtract the difference...
Rudimentary, but it works.
Total weight difference? 54lbs.
Not the 75-100lbs that I thought we might see, but still not bad especially considering the performance increase I'm hoping to see. BTW, the car sounds badazz with this exhaust on it! Deep and throaty and you can really hear the big Kelfords doing their thing.
BTW, we ended up weighing the aluminum piping and the Perrin exhaust taken off the car. We used a simple household scale you would use to weigh yourself. Stand on the scale to get your weight, then hold each piece individually and subtract the difference...
Rudimentary, but it works.
Total weight difference? 54lbs.
Not the 75-100lbs that I thought we might see, but still not bad especially considering the performance increase I'm hoping to see. BTW, the car sounds badazz with this exhaust on it! Deep and throaty and you can really hear the big Kelfords doing their thing.
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