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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Clutch/gear shifting issues

Evo 9 SE (gsr) 88k odometer
Clutch=excedy stage 1 sd new
Swift springs
Progress anti roll bar
Viper alarm w/ auto start
Brake reservoir cap sealed (power bleeder mod)
Everything else stock

Car off: gears go in fine/ shifts like butter from 1st to R

Car on with ac on: Slightly harder to put in 1st to R but seems better than with ac off

If I clutch in, start car and go into gear it's smooth

If I clutch in, start car and let off clutch in Neutral, it'll almost seem like it's locking me out, very hard to go into any gear. I pretty much have to force it in.

So far I've tried adjusting the clutch pedal inwards then outwards but it doesn't seem to help much. Im planning to bleed the clutch because I'm not sure if they did after the clutch install about a week ago.

Can this be a motor mount issue as well? I've been thinking my motor moves way too much causing the tranny to be in a weird position to shift?
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 01:25 AM
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Car on with ac on: Slightly harder to put in 1st to R but seems better than with ac off
Not quite so. I've tried it again. Stopping at a light where I'm in "neutral" and trying to shift to first is very "stiff" though it won't grind when I apply lots of pressure. I mean I'm forcing it in.
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Old Mar 5, 2012 | 07:07 PM
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Will a restrictor delete solve my problems? Anyone?
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Old Mar 6, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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If the problem wasnt there before the clutch was installed then take it back to who did it. If it was there then check bushings on shifter cables at trans.
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Old Mar 7, 2012 | 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wht95scort
If the problem wasnt there before the clutch was installed then take it back to who did it. If it was there then check bushings on shifter cables at trans.
It progressively got there... Which prompt me to thinking it was a bad clutch... I babied my 9... At 88k, it was also starting to slip...
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 12:55 AM
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is it only when car is dead cold?
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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Yeah I'm starting to think so. When I got to Aq Motorsports about 30 mins away it got smoother though not perfect. They had put in extra s fluid. From my searches I've found that its mainly used on wrx and sti's. They are changing the fluids back to oem per my request to see if that is the case.
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 01:19 PM
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Ok so no it not the fluids as its oem and it's still causing issues... Anybody with more ideas?
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Old Mar 16, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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Check the for and the slave. re bleed the clutch. Make sure nothing is in the way of the cables. Take a look at the trans inspection hole look at the TOB. Did they replace the TOB when they did the clutch? Could be the TOB going bad
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 02:42 AM
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Is it possible to put something backwards on accident?
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Because its with all gears that I'm having difficulty with, I'm going to double check the linkage and slave and I'll post back my findings
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Is this Normal for the slave cylinder to stay at this position?


It looks like it can retract back a little bit.

Here's with the clutch depressed:


This is with the car off.

Again my situation:
1. Car is smooth going into gear with the car OFF
2. Feels like it's locked out of ALL gears with the car ON (stoplight in Neutral)
3. If I start with clutch depressed I can go into ANY gears smoothly but if I let go of clutch it will feel locked out again.
4. If I let it roll it will go into gear smoother.

No grinding, some notchiness.
New Excedy Stage 1 SD Clutch, New TOB, 2x bleed

I know of some people with the same issues but I'm not sure if it has been resolved because those old posts didn't have a definitive answer. I've scoured google and there are other manufacturers out there having the same issues if not related but nothing I can use.

Please Help with My Lockout issue in Neutral and hopefully it'll help others as well.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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Hey not trying to thread jack but I'm having similar issues maybe we cna kill two birds with one stone.

Situation-cruising in 5th coming up on a light went to downshift into 4th and grinded so slowed some more in neutral and tried third same bs again slowed more and tried 2nd same effin bs finally pushed the shifter into gear and got it back home having to force it in.
I changed the slave since there was a lot of fluid leaking from that location. I'm not sure if I screwed up on bleeding it but same issue I try to engage first and it won't go in but the car starts to roll forward as if it's semi in gear with the clutch fully depressed. It won't shift into gear with car off with or without pushing the clutch in. I was told it could be the pressure plate or spring came loose or something similar. Any ideas? I don't want to order a new clutch kit just to find out it wasnt the issue.
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 04:37 PM
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The mechanics may have forgotten to lubricate your input shaft so the throwout bearing slides easier. If it were me I would carefully try to spray some wd40 through the access hole. Be careful not to get any on the clutch. If it shifts better with the engine running, then you know you need to drop the trans and lube it properly. Good luck
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Old Mar 18, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rmatthew987
Hey not trying to thread jack but I'm having similar issues maybe we cna kill two birds with one stone.

Situation-cruising in 5th coming up on a light went to downshift into 4th and grinded so slowed some more in neutral and tried third same bs again slowed more and tried 2nd same effin bs finally pushed the shifter into gear and got it back home having to force it in.
I changed the slave since there was a lot of fluid leaking from that location. I'm not sure if I screwed up on bleeding it but same issue I try to engage first and it won't go in but the car starts to roll forward as if it's semi in gear with the clutch fully depressed. It won't shift into gear with car off with or without pushing the clutch in. I was told it could be the pressure plate or spring came loose or something similar. Any ideas? I don't want to order a new clutch kit just to find out it wasnt the issue.
If you can't shift it with the car off, it's not the clutch. You either have a linkage problem or an internal problem in the trans.
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