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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
You meant 3786 right? FP raised the prices to much for me to experiment. 6466 might be the way to go for most now. I almost want to sell my hta 86 before I break it and get the 6466. We'll see.. A good friend told me to stick it out with the 86 tho
Well yeah it would need to be 3786 vs 6466 to be fair, I think a 3586 can make 830 with the right setup.
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Old Sep 6, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Well yeah it would need to be 3786 vs 6466 to be fair, I think a 3586 can make 830 with the right setup.
I'm sure I don't have the right set up

I guess we will see where it leaves me.
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ElectricBlueIX
My question is this...if you haven't upgraded your turbo setup at all...which turbo would you choose? I've heard a lot of good things about the 6466.
If I hadn't purchased either one yet, I would get the 6466, I too have heard nothing but good things about it.
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue91lx
I'd say 6262 for a street car. What the hell do you need more than 700-800whp on the street for?
Because the guy next to you might have 699 to 799 hp. Duh

On a serious note the 6466 is a bad *** street turbo. Basically the same thing as the HTA turbo or 6262. All 3 spoolup about the same and the 6466 makes more topend then the other 2 turbos.
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 08:20 AM
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Alot of it is having it in the correct housing I think, the whole reason that the 3794 wasnt as exciting as it was is it was corked. If I could get in a larger housing than the 1.15 I think I would now go larger.
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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How laggy do you think a 3786 would be compared to a 3586.
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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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In a twin scroll I dont think it would be any laggier. Based on what I saw between my 3586 and 3794 on the street or dyno with load, I dont expect there'd be much loss at all.
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
In a twin scroll I dont think it would be any laggier. Based on what I saw between my 3586 and 3794 on the street or dyno with load, I dont expect there'd be much loss at all.
Do you guys plan on getting one of those new FP turbos to test anytime soon?
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
Alot of it is having it in the correct housing I think, the whole reason that the 3794 wasnt as exciting as it was is it was corked. If I could get in a larger housing than the 1.15 I think I would now go larger.

I believe they make a 1.32 for that turbine wheel size
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Migsubishi
Do you guys plan on getting one of those new FP turbos to test anytime soon?
I am extremely tempted to get one for my car but I promised myself that I had a limit on it the way it sits. We'll see

Dan, a 1.32 is tempting.

Aaron
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Old Sep 9, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
I am extremely tempted to get one for my car but I promised myself that I had a limit on it the way it sits. We'll see

Dan, a 1.32 is tempting.

Aaron
i know i changed the hole turbo and cams but trapping 151 in a street car seems to tell me i no longer have a back pressure issue with the 1.15 housing.

i bought the 1.15 and also ported the crap out of it. i think the 66mm turbine wheel and the bigger housing made a huge difference. give it a try with the 3786 turbo. i am sure the results will be the same.
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Old Sep 18, 2012 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley
In a twin scroll I dont think it would be any laggier. Based on what I saw between my 3586 and 3794 on the street or dyno with load, I dont expect there'd be much loss at all.
So do you think a 3794 would be more laggier than the 6466?
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:08 PM
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What is the" right set up" make 800-830 on the 3586? Has there been any information gathered about the 3786 as a comparison to the 3586?
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Tial 1.03 V band, maybe not even that.

Its beating a deadhorse, and worse is benchracing, but here is my car back to back pulls on the 3794, 3rd and 4th gear-



Here is a 3rd gear 3586 same motor no other changes other than the turbo -



Had I realised I needed the load from 4th gear so desperately I would have dyno'd the 3586 in 4th as well. Based on what Buschur has seen, I would presume my car was well over 800 in 4th and really probably in the 820-830 range.

It was the same LR2.4, ER head, R2 cams, etc. that its always been. Both turbos had a 0.82 A/r T3 ballistic housing. The 86 was a 2.5" 4 bolt going to an immediate 3" downpipe, the 94 was a 3" V band going to the same downpipe.

A tuned a Tial V band equipped 3586 on another LR2.4 with S3s (all the mods were more or less the same) that made 762@32psi in 3rd where my car made 746. I think just the better housing would push the car over 800 in 3rd and undoubtedly higher in 4th with the load added in.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 01:40 PM
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86 to 6466 lag shoud not be 200-400rpm
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