Based on the comments above, since it seems like you want more spool than topend, it looks like the BBK Full is a good fit. With that said, you could just as easily pick any of the three at random and be completely happy. They aren't *that* different.

 

Id lean tward BBK Full just because of what you do with the car. Daily driven.. highway miles ect. fast spool and reliability seem like top priorities. But then again like everyone has said all three turbos should give you that. Im trying to pick between the same setups... let us know what you decide and how you like it.

 

I don't think OP has an IX but I see you do - I'd also give some thought to the HTA71 upgrade. For the money, it can't be beat. $650 and you get about 95% of the Green and Full. It won't do 500 awhp but on E85 it can get up past 450. I only have VD to go by but mine's at 399 on 93 octane with just the mods in my sig, 25 psi. Spools fast as **** and just makes for a great overall powerband. VD graph is solid past 7500 RPM.

 

Green....I love mine...

 

I'm really looking for longevity in the turbo and if it ever does give out it won't cost me another turbo to replace it... Hence why i didn't say
"FP Green BB"
"BBK BB"

Forgot to mention my throttle body is currently a Full Blown 70mm which is going back to a stock Throttle body size.

Sorry about that...
The Problem is the 3586r takes too long for spool up... Too big really...

What all are you supporting modifications and at what psi?

i don't understand what you typed...

I'm confused by your statement lol
You recommend the BBK and the Green HTA?

Thanks for the link... I'm about 60% BBK, 30% HTA Green & 10% Map's EF2

Thanks Blitz. I like to run it on a Mustang Dyno rather than a Typical Dynojet.

Yeah, That's why i want a Journal, i know the spool of a Ball Bearing is constant and helps in other areas as well but the reliability and rebuild rate is what keeps me away. Granted mine has never given me problems, i just don't like what RPMS it decides to push.

Thanks but i'll pass on the ball bearings.

Thanks Jay.

Thanks TJ

It will be for Sale, BUT
I'm selling the Unit as a WHOLE meaning (Turbo, Turbo Manifold, WG, LICP, DP) Basically The Entire Kit From ETS minus the Slim Fan

from others reviews it seems that the BBK is going to be my situation

Exactly how i feel LOL
i really want longevity in the turbo

lol it's like you know what i'm going through right now... No spool
I'll be contacting You soon enough

 

Yes Sir I Do. I didn't think they were too much different either, i just wanted some friendly Advice.
Thanks Todd.

I most defiantly will.

I don't have a IX Turbo, i USE to on my 03, Loved it till the higher RPMS (I've never went past 7,000 rpm... Seriously. The only time my motor has seen that while I've own it was when it was being tuned on the Dynojet by the Tuner.

Seems like everyone does.

 

Ball bearing turbos are more reliable. No if and or but about it.

 

With larger wheels (FP Black, EF4, etc.) I would tend to agree with the above statement, but in this scenario comparing the smaller stock frame variations, ball bearing vs journal bearing is irrelevant from my experience. Remember, stock turbos are journal bearing and have been known to last quite some time

OP: I would love the opportunity to earn your business, if you're not concerned with ball bearing I believe our EF2 turbocharger to be the perfect option for you. Stock like spool with the capability of putting down 400+whp on 93 octane. 30 day satisfaction guarantee, one year warranty, and we're significantly cheaper

 

I've seen the BBK Full put in work. I would get that on a IX for sure.

 

Let's get a few things straight. There seems to be a misconception regarding ball bearing vs. journal bearing turbos.

First, it is an established and widely accepted fact that ball bearing center sections in general afford improved longevity in comparison to journal bearing center sections in turbochargers. Improved longevity results in improved reliability and reduced repair intervals. Are you arguing against this?

Likewise, turbocharger spool-up, rate of spool, and transient response. All else remaining equal, a ball bearing fitted turbocharger will out spool, have a quicker rate of spool, and improved transient response characteristics in comparison to the same turbocharger fitted with journal bearings. Are you not in agreement with this statement?

The CBRD BBK turbo in journal bearing form has proven to be an exceptionally durable and dependable turbocharger. Most CBRD customers purchase the BBK in its original JB format. However, if you should happen to want it even quicker spooling and longer lasting, then CBRD will fit the BBK with a ball bearing center section.

 

I have heard nothing but good things about the EF2. Great power, and not too hard on the wallet either. I back up Chris. MAP has a great product.

 

+1

 

I would just like to say as per longevity........

evo unknown is running my ported BBK-full JB I sold him. When it was sold to him it had ~57,000 miles on it from me. We sent it to CBRD to get a once over before installing it into his car, nothing was wrong with it.

That turbo is still doing fine

 

...Now it has about 65k miles on the CBRD JB BBK-Full. Zero shaft play and has ran 30psi its whole life.

Incredible spool, 400+awhp easily on 93, and this thing is gonna keep on going...

 

Thanks To Everyone with their imput and Advice but I'm going to have to throw my rope on the BBK Full.




I can't completely agree with that, I would have to say it all depends on the manufacture.

I called you a week Ago Chris, I'm not sure if you remember or not but i explained what i wanted compared to what i have... Thanks for speaking with me and I would still like to get a lot of my replacements from you. I appreciate your time, but for history and reviews I'm going to have to go with the BBK Full Ported. I'm sure the EF series turbos are as powerful as the BBK BUT, From everyone else experience I have to get something i can put my faith in that won't fail me shortly down the road.


I've just seen differently on a few others Turbos i.e. - Supras and a Few Tsi's

I'd have to get one just because of your use of it hahaha, With that many miles and long driving.... Seems like you went to the Ball Bearing series, How is that compared to your JB BBK ?

Nice, I hope to get around that area... 30psi all the time?? Awesome