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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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How to make 450hp

Currently I am making 405/409 on FP White, bolt ons, stock motor/block/tranny/cams/internals etc on e85. What is my best option to make 450hp while still keeping the block stock. I'm thinking about doing a 2.2 in the future with forged internals and the works, but that won't be for a LONG while. I want to keep the stock frame turbo, so my options I've been looking at are the BBK Full, BBK-B or C, FP Green Red or Black. I wouldn't mind changing cams so I was thinking should I stick with 264s or get something like GSC S2 Cams since my goal is 450hp. I want to run around or under 30psi since I want to keep most everything stock and run on e85. I want a bit of torque since I'm a torque junkie, and this is my street, daily driver so I need something reliable and with the best responses. So far i'm leaning towards the BBK-B Ball Bearing. What do you guys think?
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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There are all too many of these threads asking for answers when you can easily spend 15 minutes to read other threads and find your answer for future reference..

For you though, Kelford 272's or GSC S2's and FP Red. That will manage high 400's for hp and allow you to keep 400tq so you wont have to worry too much about your stock bottom end.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 09:28 AM
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BBK full is badass, favorite stock frame turbo so far. Haven't tried a ball bearing bbk variant yet, but it could only be a better product. I am running Kelford 272's but gsc makes a nice product for sure.

With the proper combo, you can make crazy numbers on conservative boost. My car made 436/380 on cbrd's mustang dyno on 93 oct. at 25 psi. Plus I see your running e85 which is great.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NODAKevo
There are all too many of these threads asking for answers when you can easily spend 15 minutes to read other threads and find your answer for future reference..

For you though, Kelford 272's or GSC S2's and FP Red. That will manage high 400's for hp and allow you to keep 400tq so you wont have to worry too much about your stock bottom end.
+1. Made 430 on an FP red on 93 with Comp 280's. With you on e85 and S2's mid/high 400's will be no problem.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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made 459 on 24lbs of boost fpred, kelfords and e85. my goal was to hit 500whp, and my combination is more than enough to hit that mark...hitting 450 for you will be super easy!
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 11:52 AM
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Thanks for the input guys. I know it's as easy to search but I'm looking for something a little more specific and I appreciate the feedback. So leaning towards the bb red or bbk full bb with gsc s2's
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 12:08 PM
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I made 478 Whp 435 TQ on FP red with Kelfords 272, on E85.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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im running gscs2, BC springs retainers, 340fuel pump,prescision 1000cc injectors, AmS fuel rail, Aeromotive EBC, synapse reserculating BOV, Denso IKH24 plugs, SB 3.5 fmic, Mishimoto radiator, upper n lower piping, injen intake, custom o2 housing, 4" dp and exhaust no cat just muffler, ARP headstuds, stock 9 Turbo, block, tranny n tcase!! will b tuning on 93 end of month.. ne projections for HP?? im hoping for the 375hp give or take a bit..!
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by bonsuz01
I made 478 Whp 435 TQ on FP red with Kelfords 272, on E85.
Stock block? That's kind of a must to be in specifications I'm looking for. But very nice numbers

@dlucas this isn't how to make 350+ hp thread. This is 450+, if you want perjections of your build make a thread or something. But knowing the evo 9 turbo as much as I do, you're about right. Give or take 15hp I'd say. Though I don't know why you wouldn't at least run a green with that setup

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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 01:15 PM
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@ anubis. well im not running "atleast" a green n the reason is simple.. $$$.... U gota start somewhere with a build, i cant do everything at once ,n $ only goes soo far when u have a house, kids, n college bills... the shocker though is my next step is a turbo setup .. !Wow imagine that.. n then i will b posting a 550+ thread.. so ya dont b a dick.. this is my 2nd evo, numerous of my
friends own them i know them very well.. u r talking Mayb 50 hp difference here, i feel plenty fine posting in this thread buddy..
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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I don't care you who are or what you have. I was trying to be decent, and instead of being a total dick about you jacking my thread. I instead allowed you to clean yourself up and take it else where. First of all, learn how to type. If you're going to be a complete *** in someone else's thread that is completely irrelevant to you. At least try to sound some what intelligent instead of a ****ing retard. Again if you want advice, or you want to ramble on about your car. Do it on your own time and in your own thread.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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I myself have Kelford 272's and a BBK-B- ball bearing running 30 psi max.

My old Kelford 272/BBK-ported full made the 420.9 in my sig on 93 Oct.

But yeah, the red would get you there too with GSC S2's
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dlucasevo8
@ anubis. well im not running "atleast" a green n the reason is simple.. $$$.... U gota start somewhere with a build, i cant do everything at once ,n $ only goes soo far when u have a house, kids, n college bills... the shocker though is my next step is a turbo setup .. !Wow imagine that.. n then i will b posting a 550+ thread.. so ya dont b a dick.. this is my 2nd evo, numerous of my
friends own them i know them very well.. u r talking Mayb 50 hp difference here, i feel plenty fine posting in this thread buddy..
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I don't care you who are or what you have. I was trying to be decent, and instead of being a total dick about you jacking my thread. I instead allowed you to clean yourself up and take it else where. First of all, learn how to type. If you're going to be a complete *** in someone else's thread that is completely irrelevant to you. At least try to sound some what intelligent instead of a ****ing retard. Again if you want advice, or you want to ramble on about your car. Do it on your own time and in your own thread.
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 02:18 PM
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Woo! HardxCore!!
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Old Jan 3, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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Jacking ur thread.! lol.. heres how to get 450hp.. buy better cams a bigger turbo n get a good tune!! u **tard.. feel bad u had to start a thread for such a simple answer.. i could see if u were askin a more logical queation, like how to get 6-700 hp but jesus.. simple questions=simple answers.. GOOD LUCK ON UR 450HP ! haha
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