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Old Jan 13, 2013 | 11:42 PM
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Turbo setup question w/ 02 dump

OK im purchasing a turbo and 02 dump with income taxes. im thinking about an FP green with some sort of 02 dump. Im only looking to spend around $1000-1200 total on both item. but what other options do i have or what would/could somebody suggest Im basicly stock but already have 850cc injectors and 255 walbro fuel pump. looking to make 400+ hopefully closer to like 420-450
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 05:31 AM
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I think that the MAP EF 2.5, or MAP EF 3 turbos are both options worth considering in your case. The 2.5 is configured using the larger EF 3 compressor together with the faster spooling EF 2 turbine.

Chris Carey's turbo lineup embodies an enviable creative progression. This is evidenced by his willingness to dream up the MAP EF 2.5. Does this mean that we will be seeing an EF 3.5 in the not too distant future as well?

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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Sparky's suggestion is good as well...

However, with the limited budget you have of $1000-1200 you are going to be VERY limited on your selection of a turbo... Unless you stumble across some crazy deal on any stock frame turbo, BBK/FP/MAP EF. I feel this build will be much harder with the price range you have...

I would say roughly $2000 for this setup is more accurate to what you want.

Are you wanting to do an external wastegate or just an 02 dump?
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:47 AM
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well thats my limit is $2000. but id like to find a deal on an older style FP green turbo. i havent looked at the MAP turbos though. ill take a look! lol thx

And idk is it better to do an external wastegate also or just 02 dump. Is there a gain difference?
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dprez25
well thats my limit is $2000. but id like to find a deal on an older style FP green turbo. i havent looked at the MAP turbos though. ill take a look! lol thx

And idk is it better to do an external wastegate also or just 02 dump. Is there a gain difference?
Gotcha, thats more realistic honestly... and unless you are on e85 achieving 420-450 on an OG green will be very hard...

I theres a big thread related to these turbo's... they now offer them in a 11.5" hotside... worth looking into
http://shopping.kinugawaturbo.com/ki...s-4-3-1-1.aspx

As for the dump, yes if you externally gate it you typically will gain much more power with that.
http://www.maperformance.com/map-com...l#.UPRIqMVshBk

I currently have that one from map, very quality piece
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 01:45 PM
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I got what u looking for. I have garett gt3076r stock location/direct bolt-on to evo 8/9. Just got it sent to ATP for a check up before i sell it. Should get it back next week with reciept that prove that the turbo is in excellent condition. Its a dual ball bearing twin scroll internal wastegate(25psi spring),4" inlet hosing anti-surge. Water and oil cooler with lines included. I made 465hp/405tq at 30psi on 93 pump gas. Alot of people say to go with E85, but its so hard to find a gas station to refill. This kit is much better than fp green that u wanted, and if u gonna buy a ball bearing then u will pay $2300+. Im selling my dual ball bearing for $1300+shipping.
I also have a MUSE open dumptube with it as well for $200 more. With this price, u save over $500. And im having my turbo check with reciept for u to feel safe to buy it. Dont trust anybody to sell u a turbo without a pressure test for the turbo for leaks. Got less than 400 miles on the turbo. Reason why im selling is i wanted to go bigger with either a 6262 or 6266 turbo kit. Anyone??????? Well just pm me if u interested. I have a bunch of pic if u give me ur email. Thanks
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 02:01 PM
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I think it's going to be hard to find a turbo in that price range, but we can definitely help you save money on the dump portion. I'd be weary of any external o2 dumps as they'll eliminate the turbo's twin scroll function.

The Muse dump is pretty reasonably priced, 100% SS304 stainless steel and includes a 3d contoured flange at no additional cost. We're priced well below the competition and have proven results

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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I just purchased my maperformance 02 dump, cant wait for the install
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VRSF Tiago
I think it's going to be hard to find a turbo in that price range.....
The Forced Performance 71 HTA, at just $1399 substantially meets the OP's original price point. And best of all it is brand, spanking new.

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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dprez25
OK im purchasing a turbo and 02 dump with income taxes. im thinking about an FP green with some sort of 02 dump. Im only looking to spend around $1000-1200 total on both item. but what other options do i have or what would/could somebody suggest Im basicly stock but already have 850cc injectors and 255 walbro fuel pump. looking to make 400+ hopefully closer to like 420-450
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The Forced Performance 71 HTA, at just $1399 substantially meets the OP's original price point. And best of all it is brand, spanking new.
Originally Posted by dprez25
I'm thinking about an FP green with some sort of 02 dump. Im only looking to spend around $1000-1200 total on both item.
My reading comprehension must be off. Sounds like he just asked for a turbo & a dump for $1000-1200 range.
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Old Jan 14, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by VRSF Tiago
I think it's going to be hard to find a turbo in that price range.....
The Forced Performance 71 HTA, at just $1399 substantially meets the OP's original price point. Well, no. He had originally stated that he was hoping to get a turbo & O2 Hsg. both for $1200-$1300. But, to be realistic, if you take the $1200-$1300 and subtract the price of a new O2 housing, you are not going to have much left to buy a decent turbo.

Sure he might pickup an OS Green for a few hundred. But, in retrospect, the OS Green was a disappointment even when it was originally launched as the BR 20G-LT. I should know. I ran one for four years. Even on a good day the OS Green can't produce much more than 15 WHP over a stock IX turbo. So, why should the OP spend his hard earned tax refund on Old School Techology?

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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by VRSF Tiago
My reading comprehension must be off. Sounds like he just asked for a turbo & a dump for $1000-1200 range.
Agreed, he said $2000 is his ultimate "max" he could spend. However people think evo's you just throw like $1500 worth of parts into them and they are fastest thing on the planet... But many don't follow the, "if you can't afford to do it right the first time, you cant afford to do it right the second time"

OP, getting a turbo for your range is already a "playing with fire" scenario... however Sparky below made yet another excellent point.
Originally Posted by sparky
The Forced Performance 71 HTA, at just $1399 substantially meets the OP's original price point. Well, no. He had originally stated that he was hoping to get a turbo & O2 Hsg. both for $1200-$1300. But, to be realistic, if you take the $1200-$1300 and subtract the price of a new O2 housing, you are not going to have much left to buy a decent turbo.

Sure he might pickup an OS Green for a few hundred. But, in retrospect, the OS Green was a disappointment even when it was originally launched as the BR 20G-LT. I should know. I ran one for four years. Even on a good day the OS Green can't produce much more than 15 WHP over a stock IX turbo. So, why should the OP spend his hard earned tax refund on Old School Techology?
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 01:02 PM
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Yes Tiago. I didn't really mean to contradict you...sorry dude. It's just that since OP upped the ante to $2K, I figured that he could get a new HTA 71 and still have change left over for a nice O2/Dump and some injectors if he is still on the stock nozzles. As noted above.......combination is everything.

I hope the OP has a Wally. And he may want to upgrade th stock IC. Then there is always a tune as well.......
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 01:07 PM
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No worries, I must have missed the part where he upped the budget.

You can find quite a few turbos in that range but I'd honestly focus on getting the required bolt ons/supporting mods before adding a turbo. Stock FMIC and piping are incredibly restrictive as is the stock intake. Can you make power on them? Sure but you'll make quite a bit more power by upgrading them.
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Old Jan 15, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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If you have a IX turbo upgrade it to a 73HTA and get the Muse, and save for a tune.
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