Looking for an Alternative (2.3 vs 2.0)
Looking for an Alternative (2.3 vs 2.0)
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Ok, There are MANY threads regarding the comparison between the two... but my scenario is a little different.
I have a 2.3 stroker. I have Eagle rods, and it was really fun when I had the FP Black setups on it. Now I want to go with a new setup and I need some advice on what to do. Now part of me says "You drive the car on the street... keep it a street car". The other part of me says "GO BIG OR GO HOME!" Now I dont drive me Evo often. I may drive it to a local meet, and I will enjoy the local track day in the future... But dedicating it as my TRACK CAR isnt something. I am leaning towards keeping this my street car that I play with.
Scenario 1:
Use my spare block... and get a 2.0 built.
Scenario 2:
Keep the 2.3 block... and put Turbo Tuff rods in it.
Question:
would I have to disassemble the block, and visit the machine shop to have the rotating assembly re-balanced?
Obviously the 2nd scenario would be cheaper... But would it be a simple rod swap?
Any help would be appreciated.
Ok, There are MANY threads regarding the comparison between the two... but my scenario is a little different.
I have a 2.3 stroker. I have Eagle rods, and it was really fun when I had the FP Black setups on it. Now I want to go with a new setup and I need some advice on what to do. Now part of me says "You drive the car on the street... keep it a street car". The other part of me says "GO BIG OR GO HOME!" Now I dont drive me Evo often. I may drive it to a local meet, and I will enjoy the local track day in the future... But dedicating it as my TRACK CAR isnt something. I am leaning towards keeping this my street car that I play with.
Scenario 1:
Use my spare block... and get a 2.0 built.
Scenario 2:
Keep the 2.3 block... and put Turbo Tuff rods in it.
Question:
would I have to disassemble the block, and visit the machine shop to have the rotating assembly re-balanced?
Obviously the 2nd scenario would be cheaper... But would it be a simple rod swap?
Any help would be appreciated.
Last edited by BOOSTINAT30PSI; Feb 4, 2013 at 04:31 PM.
In my opinion if you're pulling the motor and opening it up you should throw in all new parts. I went from a 2.3 with a black to a 2.0 with 10.5:1cr and 6766.
The torque from a stroker and stock frame turbo is fun, but 9500+ rpms and huge top end power is just awesome! Go big my friend!
The torque from a stroker and stock frame turbo is fun, but 9500+ rpms and huge top end power is just awesome! Go big my friend!
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In particular reason why do you want a 2.0 instead of a 2.3 (or 2.2 or 2.4) I'm thinking the extra displacement would make for more of a fun car.
That being said. Turbo Tuff's would probably be better insurance. Do you have a power goal or particular setup in mind?
That being said. Turbo Tuff's would probably be better insurance. Do you have a power goal or particular setup in mind?
Last edited by SmurfZilla; Feb 13, 2013 at 06:55 PM.
You want hp not torque. Build a 2.0L that revs with a large turbo. Your decision is easy!
ER 2.0L LR (88mm stroke, 156mm, 1.13ch wisexo hd's). Give Aaron and Myles a call and see how much.
ER 2.0L LR (88mm stroke, 156mm, 1.13ch wisexo hd's). Give Aaron and Myles a call and see how much.
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i figured that id love to put a 6766 on the car and if I kept the 2.3 that I would be limited to about 8500rpm. as far as the power goal... after the trans gets the 4.11 treatment and the t case gets some attention also... id love to see 800+. I just figured that the turbo would love some more rpm's. BUT YES... It would make for a fun street car with a 2.3
ernie. i spoke to myles a few weeks ago... Good peoples!!! I am still thinking of what to do.
i figured that id love to put a 6766 on the car and if I kept the 2.3 that I would be limited to about 8500rpm. as far as the power goal... after the trans gets the 4.11 treatment and the t case gets some attention also... id love to see 800+. I just figured that the turbo would love some more rpm's. BUT YES... It would make for a fun street car with a 2.3
ernie. i spoke to myles a few weeks ago... Good peoples!!! I am still thinking of what to do.
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if you dont drag race the car you will probally have more fun with the 2.3 with a 6766 or even 6466 turbo on it i have a 2.0 drive it mostly on the street but i dont take my car to 9000 rpm every chance i get i usually shift 8500 or so i say put some new bearings and put turbo tuff rods in it.
For a street car there is no reason to not stay with the stroker motor. Go with a larger turbo if you want, freshen up the motor with better rods, but unless you plan to race, not much point in going to a 2.0L imo.
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A 6466 will get you to 800+ and it will spool better then a 6766. I would only do that turbo if I was trying to break 900+
Keep the 2.3, put some strong rods in there for added insurance. Strap a 6466 on to that summa***** and hang on.
Keep the 2.3, put some strong rods in there for added insurance. Strap a 6466 on to that summa***** and hang on.
Sounds like a good idea H although, my 2.3 6766 setup hits peak boost at around 4900 which is pretty wicked. Was very surprised that a turbo that large hits it that quickly. With a good combination of mods, a good crank, it will rip. i wonder what my spool would b on a 6466....hmmmm
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Thats more or less my point. I'm not saying the 6766 is a slouch, but if you can get good spool with that big of a turbo imagine how quick the spool is with a smaller turbo that can still do the job. If he was borderline on his power goals then 6766 all the way but if he can achieve his HP with a smaller turbo that too me would be a fun car.
Unless he wants room to grow.
Either way can't wrong which ever size he chooses.
Unless he wants room to grow.
Either way can't wrong which ever size he chooses.
Thats more or less my point. I'm not saying the 6766 is a slouch, but if you can get good spool with that big of a turbo imagine how quick the spool is with a smaller turbo that can still do the job. If he was borderline on his power goals then 6766 all the way but if he can achieve his HP with a smaller turbo that too me would be a fun car.
To the OP; because you are so set on keeping this a street car, I would keep the 2.3 in there and give it some new internals...
Id love to take the car to the track...but it wont live there. this will be a street car.
Thestig... Whats the compression on your motor?
I will strap a 6766 to the motor and see whats gonna happen... Unless precision brings something new.
Thestig... Whats the compression on your motor?
I will strap a 6766 to the motor and see whats gonna happen... Unless precision brings something new.
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