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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 03:34 PM
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I was figuring doing a 6466 in a 1.32 a/r. Since the 6466 in the low to mid 40 psi range basically offers the same power output as the 6766 but with better spool, it should also spool up better than a 6766 with the same turbine housing. Getting a larger hotside should reduce backpressure and help gain some serious top end pull for a high revving build.
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A 1.32 would or should spool like a 0.792 single which we already know didnt spool slower than the 0.68 with the efficient compressor wheel and turbine. Jeff's car runs a 1.44 right now and hasnt seemingly lost to the 1.28 while maintaining 48psi of backpressure at 53psi of boost.

I'll grab the dyno sheets to show what I am talking about in a bit.

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So would you recommend the 6466 T4 1.32 a/r over the 6766 if boost pressure is going to be 40~45 psi max?
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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Aaron, how is it actually driving on the street though with the housing change.

Particularly peak boost levels in 1st and 2nd gears from a roll and 3rd gear time to boost from a roll.

I realize for drag racing leaving with launch control it's mostly irrelevant, (until you miss a shift or bog a launch and have to wait for it to respool). But for a street car, it was very noticeable. One local was running the 4202 for some testing with the 1.28 housing on a 2.0L B-series setup and the turbo litterally didn't spool above like 15 psi until third gear if he botched the launch.

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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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I'm planning soon on going with a 6766 with a 1.32. I feel like on the 2.4 it's going to be quite unreal seeing what it can do.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 03:47 PM
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Aaron, how is it actually driving on the street though with the housing change.

I realize for drag racing leaving with launch control it's mostly irrelevant, (until you miss a shift or bog a launch and have to wait for it to respool). But for a street car, it was very noticeable. One local was running the 4202 for some testing with the 1.28 housing on a 2.0L B-series setup and the turbo litterally didn't spool above like 15 psi until third gear if he botched the launch.
hummm... I hope it ain't that bad because I plan to go with a TS6466 T4 1.32a/r, unless I hear otherwise...
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Old Apr 27, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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1.15 A/R is a sweet spot for top end and spool for an all round setup depending on your goals.

Aaron how restrictive are 1.25" exhaust manifold runners over 700hp with a 1.15 A/R TS T4? I'm hearing the back pressure on 1.25" over 700hp negligible or is 1.5" the go?

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Old Apr 28, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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1.15 A/R is a sweet spot for top end and spool for an all round setup depending on your goals.

Aaron how restrictive are 1.25" exhaust manifold runners over 700hp with a 1.15 A/R TS T4? I'm hearing the back pressure on 1.25" over 700hp negligible or is 1.5" the go?
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 02:59 PM
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Where can you get a Garrett T4 Divided housing 1.15 A/R to suit GT35?
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonba
Where can you get a Garrett T4 Divided housing 1.15 A/R to suit GT35?
+1 on that!
Looking for one for my 3586 asap!
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Where can you get a Garrett T4 Divided housing 1.15 A/R to suit GT35?
A local guy here in Sydney AU who use to work for Garrett put a 1.15AR on my 6262 he just had to mill for the tribune to clear.
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Old Jul 3, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JGNERAEVO9
1.15 A/R is a sweet spot for top end and spool for an all round setup depending on your goals.

Aaron how restrictive are 1.25" exhaust manifold runners over 700hp with a 1.15 A/R TS T4? I'm hearing the back pressure on 1.25" over 700hp negligible or is 1.5" the go?
Do you have any EGT ports in your manifold?
You could use one of those to measure back pressure and plot that against boost.
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Old Jul 4, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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Do you have any EGT ports in your manifold?
You could use one of those to measure back pressure and plot that against boost.
Mines Evo 9 non EGT Anyone with any other info for exhaust manifold runner diameter and how it effects back pressure over 700 hp.
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You are talking 1-1/2" vs. 1-1/4" pipe, right? Because 1-1/4" schedule 10 pipe has a larger ID then 0.035" wall 1.5"OD tube and Schedule 10 1-1/2" pipe is larger then 0.035" wall 1.75" tube.

Also, schedule 10 will flow about 9% more then schedule 40...

Might seem like a small detail, but if that correlates to power, at 700HP level, you are talking about 60HP difference in potential between the two on flow capability.

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Originally Posted by 03whitegsr
Aaron, how is it actually driving on the street though with the housing change.

Particularly peak boost levels in 1st and 2nd gears from a roll and 3rd gear time to boost from a roll.

I realize for drag racing leaving with launch control it's mostly irrelevant, (until you miss a shift or bog a launch and have to wait for it to respool). But for a street car, it was very noticeable. One local was running the 4202 for some testing with the 1.28 housing on a 2.0L B-series setup and the turbo litterally didn't spool above like 15 psi until third gear if he botched the launch.
I realise this was 6 months ago...but its WAY BETTER on the street than it used to be.
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