Notices
Evo Engine / Turbo / Drivetrain Everything from engine management to the best clutch and flywheel.

Thick black sludge issue?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 23, 2013 | 10:04 AM
  #16  
thepoint4life23's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 41
From: Columbus, Ohio
Buschur Runs Brad Penn 20/50 in his cars. and what he tells people to run
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2013 | 10:25 AM
  #17  
TheBigD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: North Dakota
yeah, like i said ive never had a problem with ams oil before. like i said, could be bad batch of oil, could be a not sufficient enough catch can to catch all the E condensation? or heat issue from DP, or a mix of all of them..

i do have a bigger oil cooler, the one stm sells, nice unit, and as for engine temps, my temp gauge is below the half mark at all times

the problem with brad and penn for me is its not synthetic.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2013 | 10:56 AM
  #18  
turbocheese's Avatar
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Pittsfield, MA
Hmmm looks just like what happens to Brad Penn 20-50 / e85...



I am currently running Brad Penn and e85 but my oil never looked like the OP's or whats in the video.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2013 | 11:11 AM
  #19  
TheBigD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: North Dakota
them videos are EXACTLY what my oil looked like, maybe about 25% of it came out normal but the rest looked exactly like that. and thats what was built up all over in my pan and head.


also, do you guys think the tomei oil thermostat eliminator would help? or can i disassemble the stock one to allow oil to the the cooler at all times? good idea or no? i only drive the car on nice weather days in the summer so winter oil temps dont affect me.

OR could possibly my oil thermostat be going bad and not functioning properly?

Last edited by TheBigD; Oct 23, 2013 at 03:38 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2013 | 02:25 PM
  #20  
TheBigD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: North Dakota
off work bump
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2013 | 04:07 PM
  #21  
boostedwrx's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (27)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 5,034
Likes: 2
From: Seattle, WA
subscribed bump
Reply
Old Oct 23, 2013 | 06:38 PM
  #22  
apagan01's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (299)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 5
From: digging for oil
Originally Posted by thepoint4life23
Buschur Runs Brad Penn 20/50 in his cars. and what he tells people to run
Brad penn would have been worst in this case. Brad penn is non synthetic so the flash point is way lower than a group 4 synthetic. And then you throw ethanol on top of that and it makes matter even worst for brad penn.

The reality is that should have not happend to that oil after one day of racing, that should have not happend to even the cheapest of synthetics... There is a piece of the pie that is missing here that we don't know about. Group 4 oils like the AMSOIL he is runnning should not gunk up that fast unless the flash point of the oil was exceeded during racing,,, and the OP said his temps are normal.

Last edited by apagan01; Oct 23, 2013 at 06:48 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 07:46 AM
  #23  
TheBigD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: North Dakota
yeah that piece if the pie is what i want to figure out before this happens again, and end up in the long run needing to refresh my 3k mile buschur bottom end cuz of it!

coolant temps run normal, intake air temps run cool, have a upgraded oil cooler -10 lines.
(but that wouldnt help if me oil thermostat wasnt opening) and that day it was about 60*

only thing that happend that day was my clutch went out, and my serpentine belt came off at the end of the track so i shut down the car and coasted as far as possible, even then temp gauge didnt rise above the 3/4 mark. but maybe with it sitting there waiting for a tow with it at the 3/4 coulda baked synthetic oil? or maybe a combo of oil thermostat not opening and the engine temps that pass do it?
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 09:55 AM
  #24  
thepoint4life23's Avatar
Evolved Member
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,559
Likes: 41
From: Columbus, Ohio
After watching that video it looks like the e85 issue that people have had the has blow a few motors due to Injectors getting gunked up. you may want to check your injectors
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 05:21 PM
  #25  
TheBigD's Avatar
Thread Starter
Evolving Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: North Dakota
yeah my injectors get gunky(ish) and i clean them about every other oil change just to be safe, sometimes there still clean, sometimes there gunky, its kinda hit or miss
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 06:36 PM
  #26  
apagan01's Avatar
Account Disabled
iTrader: (299)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 4,863
Likes: 5
From: digging for oil
Originally Posted by tormaschy15
yeah my injectors get gunky(ish) and i clean them about every other oil change just to be safe, sometimes there still clean, sometimes there gunky, its kinda hit or miss


You got a fuel issue I bet you. It is obvious after watching your situation.
You have a high powered car runing big injectors with ethanol...
No oil will cure anything here. .. but I still question the fact that the gunk issue occured during one single race... there is more to uncover there.

I can surely testify that by using the amsoil you are using it will for sure protect better than most oils out there. The oil you are running has a good detergent package TBN is around 10.0 or above, antiwear additives on this oil are killer good, flash point is good as well so it holds up to heat very good.... you are in good hands with the oil no doubt.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 10:41 PM
  #27  
mrfred's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,675
Likes: 132
From: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
possibly due to insufficient crankcase ventilation?
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 10:49 PM
  #28  
mrfred's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,675
Likes: 132
From: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
double post.

Last edited by mrfred; Oct 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM.
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 11:05 PM
  #29  
detroit pistins's Avatar
Evolved Member
iTrader: (102)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 2,173
Likes: 19
From: Detroit
^ I see your post and I am thinking "pressure cooker".
Reply
Old Oct 24, 2013 | 11:30 PM
  #30  
mrfred's Avatar
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (50)
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 9,675
Likes: 132
From: Tri-Cities, WA // Portland, OR
Originally Posted by detroit pistins
^ I see your post and I am thinking "pressure cooker".
not pressure but lack of elimination of volitales.
Reply



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:05 PM.