FP HTA86 compressor quality issue
I agree with shodan.
Why does the inside of the shroud have any relevance to looks? Are you going to be running with no filter or intake kit?
Get some 2000 grit and a spray bottle and polish it up if you must.
Why does the inside of the shroud have any relevance to looks? Are you going to be running with no filter or intake kit?
Get some 2000 grit and a spray bottle and polish it up if you must.
My gripe is with the first picture and that's it. I understand the rest aren't an issue regarding performance. I'm not looking to start a fight either. I just don't understand why that is OK. The inlet is what it is. Not that cut out though. Even if it doesn't affect performance at all.
Why is it too much to ask for $2300 that it looks nice and performs like it should? Just because something does what it is supposed to doesn't mean it's right. Nobody here would buy a set of rims that had tooling marks or whatever that is and just say oh well they work and do what they are supposed to do.
Last edited by vito93; Apr 6, 2014 at 11:17 PM.
Why is it too much to ask for $2300 that it looks nice and performs like it should? Just because something does what it is supposed to doesn't mean it's right. Nobody here would buy a set of rims that had tooling marks or whatever that is and just say oh well they work and do what they are supposed to do.
First of all, nobody is going to see the inlet side of the turbo to notice such "defects", if that is what you want to call it. If it's a forward facing turbo without a filter, I would be concerned about many other things other than the aesthetics of the inlet side. If it's going to be run with a regular turbo kit, then most likely you'll be adding an intake, which would conceal the aforementioned "defect".
Now, if these marks do not hinder the performance in any shape or form and you're still upset about the slight scratch marks, I suggest you immediately grow a pair and man up before bashing the producer(s) of such a fine product.
Coming to your rim comparison, I am willing to bet you any amount of money that if these rims were going to make a difference in time slips or lap times for the better and they contained some scratch marks that do not affect performance, MOST of us would still buy them.
However, if these rims were meant for show, then obviously most of us wouldn't buy them, and I have no doubt in mind that the turbo you are comparing to a set of rims, had been bought with no intention of being a super model.
Considering this to be your argument, I would recommend that you send the turbo back to FP, have them polish and shine it, get them to send it back to you, place the turbo in a picture frame, and hang it just above your bed, right next to your shiny cams and ceramic coated intake manifold.
How about the guy who got his and the marks aren't on his? If you don't care what your stuff looks like inside or out that's fine, but a lot of people do. For $2300 a little more effort to make it nice wouldn't be too much to ask.
I would not, in your case the compressor cover would be going back to FP in exchange for a new one. If I was laughed at they would be getting their entire turbo back and I would be receiving a refund
Product not as described. Case Closed
The first picture down in the port area is the only thing of concern. That should have been deburred or tossed in the scrap. That has the potential to break off and cause other problems.
That doesn't look like a standard issue and FP probably should have sent that back if that's how it came from Garrett. That is definitely a machining defect.
As for aluminum not being able to oxidize because it doesn't have iron... Apparently aluminum oxide doesn't exist... Better not tell the aluminum industry that because 100% of every aluminum piece in the world comes from refining aluminum oxide.
That doesn't look like a standard issue and FP probably should have sent that back if that's how it came from Garrett. That is definitely a machining defect.
As for aluminum not being able to oxidize because it doesn't have iron... Apparently aluminum oxide doesn't exist... Better not tell the aluminum industry that because 100% of every aluminum piece in the world comes from refining aluminum oxide.
Last edited by 03whitegsr; Apr 7, 2014 at 08:22 AM.
I'm with the OP on this one. If I spent $2300 on a turbo and it looked like that I would be pissed. All the FP minions can say "you won't even see that part of the turbo" all they want, it is still embarrassing for them to send a product out like that. I just sold my stock IX turbo to a guy in New York who was hard up for a cheap used IX turbo so I hooked him up for $300 w/shipping. The hotside had a broken bolt in it and it looked slightly aged. I figure anything I sell has my reputation attached to it. So I went to the machine shop and paid to have the bolt drilled out and the threads retapped. Then I spent the better part of that whole day scrubbing it down with scotchbrite pads and parts cleaner until the thing shined like new because I wouldn't want to receive a turbo that looked how it did. And he only spent $300, not $2300. Just saying....
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Bryan,
That is not in the air flow so there’s little need to clean it up to a high shine like the nozzle area of the compressor cover. That being said all of our compressor housings are machined this way as it would add unnecessary cost to the turbocharger and not enhance the products performance one bit. Also it’s not a part of the turbocharger that would normally be seen, another reason why it’s not a priority to make that perfectly smooth.
I can’t really replace it with another cover because all of them are going to be machined the same way. If you’re concerned about the appearance of that area might I suggest having it polished to a high sheen, while it won’t help performance it’ll give you the fine machining look you’re going for.
That is not in the air flow so there’s little need to clean it up to a high shine like the nozzle area of the compressor cover. That being said all of our compressor housings are machined this way as it would add unnecessary cost to the turbocharger and not enhance the products performance one bit. Also it’s not a part of the turbocharger that would normally be seen, another reason why it’s not a priority to make that perfectly smooth.
I can’t really replace it with another cover because all of them are going to be machined the same way. If you’re concerned about the appearance of that area might I suggest having it polished to a high sheen, while it won’t help performance it’ll give you the fine machining look you’re going for.
To the person that compared it to buying wheels. Grab your RPF1s and flip them over and tell me if the back of that wheel is finished machined or just raw cast. Actually I know it's raw cast small pitting and all and in some case a few casting burrs here and there. Because it's not a part of the wheel that anyone will see and it doesn't hinder performance one bit.
Bryan if you'd like please send the turbo back to us and we can go from there. Although I can't guarantee you a perfect compressor cover I'll find you the prettiest one I can.
-Michael
^^^^great customer service. I stand corrected and retract my previous statement. I'm in retail and its all about cust service. FP obviously stands behind the product and offered a refund if you're not happy. That's awesome and what more can you ask for??? I'm planning on doing another upgrade this summer from my 20g TD06SL2 to some form of a gt35r and couldn't decide who to go with. I think Michael just made my mind up for me
good stuff man.
good stuff man.









