its my understanding that rev matching for down shifts does need to happen but it does not have to match perfectly. it is more of the shift. once you commit to shift ''down or up'' you must not dilly around. quick shifts are key

 

Correct.. they sound brutal if you don't shift them right "just driving around" lol

 

With my Mustang I street drove the car and finally figured out how to shift while putzing around. Double-clutch it like driving a semi-truck and the gears will just fall into gear with no noise at all. Down-shifting is more difficult, but it can be done.

 

Can you explain double clutching?

 

i don't think there's anything wrong with throwing out prices.

Prices I got couple months back

Btw, everything already availability from what we were told at pri

 

Damn 1100-1430 is not cheap! But it is 20% of a dogbox and 1000% less annoying.

 

$1100 isnt bad if they can put it together after its all machined. Even if thats not included, I would say anything cheaper than the cheapest built trannies is a good deal. TRE is $1700ish for a built stage 3 transmission, if this can be done for less than that I would say its a viable option.

 

You have to ship them parts, assembly not included

 

Assembly without Synchros is easier than a std build. These are simple transmissions too. I would do this for a car that is drag focused street car for sure. Mine is a true daily driver so I will keep it a Synchro transmission.

 

RRT is building trannies with dog 1-2 gears and he says this is the ultimate street setup. My car is a drag focused street car but I don't want it to be more annoying than it already is with the QM clutch and solid mounts... Any opinions on this trans setup??

 

Sure.

So, you start out in first gear as you pull away from a stop light. Now its time to shift into second gear so you:
1. Push in the clutch and put the trans in neutral
2. Release the clutch while it is still in neutral
3. Push the clutch back in and now slide the shifter into second gear
4. Release the clutch and accelerate.

When you do this it allows all the stuff spinning around inside the trans to get into synch and allows a smoother engagement. Again, this is just for putzing the car around. There is a certain "feel" to it, but after practice I was able to figure out the sweet rpm point for each gear change where the shift level would just kind of "fall" into the next gear without a noise at all. Literally shifted as smoothly as a synchonized trans once I figured it out.

Obviously, your shifts will be a bit slower than normal during regular driving. But, by doing this you avoid any clunking/crunching noise that comes from the face-teeth violently bumping into each other during engagement. Basically, this slowing-down the shift allows everything internally to get aligned before the shift, which is exactly what a synchronizer does in the first place.

Hope this helps.

 

I've been waiting 15 years for this to have merit!!!


Cool to see people doing this on the EVO trans as the gears in there are pretty stout.

I've had a few friends that drove dog boxes on the street though and yeah...it's bad. Drop a gear with them on the freeway with your window down and you start check the rear view to see if parts come flying out the back of their car.

 

So the only difference between a ppg dog box transmission and this face platted transmission are the gears?

 

That's kind of like saying an Evo and a lancer are the same thing except for the EVO being AWD.

There are very big difference between the two.