This is all great info guys.. where should i order one of these from? trying find the best deal which I'm sure most of you guys are looking for also . Thanks

 

That was not my issue with the Exedy stg 1 since one of the fixes I tried was replacing the motor mounts which made 0 difference, I was at a point where I thought it was my transmission since I have an MR. Also I just went from the worn Exedy that was locking me out and slipping to a new high clamping XTSS that has 0 lockout what so ever, it's amazing to drive again.

Are you going to install it yourself or have a shop do it? I just did some Google searches for the clutch I wanted and then talked to my tuner about it, he price matched what I had found.

 

This one is light and said to have longer life expectancy than stock. Really easy to drive with stock flywheel.
http://www.clutchmasters.com/fx200/


FX200

STREET


70% Increased holding capacity


The FX200 System uses the Power Plus I Pressure Plate and a Steel Backed Kevlar disc. This clutch is designed for the street enthusiast or weekend racer. The FX200 offers similar torque rating and holding capacity as the FX100, however, its life expectancy is increased with the Kevlar disc. Our Kevlar friction material is non-abrasive and doesn't score the mating surfaces. It features only slightly increased pedal pressure, significantly longer life than stock, and normal clutch feel during engagement and disengagement for the smoothest operation of any stage we offer. Minimum 500 Required break in miles. Please see The Technical guide for more details. *

All stages come as a complete kit including disc, pressure plate, throwout bearing, pilot bearing (when applicable), and alignment tool.

(Individual components available upon request)

*Organic/ Kevlar/ Formula Button Clutch kits are expected and tend to have a higher life expectancy than OEM, however not guaranteed. Improper Installation, Driving style, performance upgrades, Break in procedure and light weight flywheels will effect and have a role in determining the life expectancy of the clutch kit.

FX200 is rated to hold 380 foot pounds of torque


There is also an FX 250

FX250

fx250.jpg
STREET

110% Increased holding capacity


The FX250 System uses the Power Plus I Pressure Plate and a hybrid combination of Clutch Masters New Formula Button on one side and a heavy-duty Steel Back Organic friction lining on the other. This clutch is designed for the street enthusiast or weekend racer who plans to abuse their vehicle on an occasional basis and have a spirited driving style. The FX250 clutch system has a higher holding capacity than a traditional full faced Kevlar without compromising the street friendly characteristics Clutch Masters is known for.

* All stages come as a complete kit including disc, pressure plate,throwout bearing, pilot bearing (when applicable), and alignment tool.

(Individual components available upon request)

*Organic/ Kevlar/ Formula Button Clutch kits are expected and tend to have a higher life expectancy than OEM, however not guaranteed. Improper Installation, Driving style, performance upgrades, Break in procedure and light weight flywheels will effect and have a role in determining the life expectancy of the clutch kit.

 

true, the 6 puck is a bit grabby, but way more than what the op really needs

true

exedy website claims this for the sd twin: Torque Capacity at Wheels 511

is the sd slipping at 400whp personal experience or simply what you've read?

The reason i ask this, people say the exedy twin hd is light in feel, IMO it's not. in fact it is heavier in feel than a basic act street disc combo.

OP, be careful with what you read, as many people have many different experiences with the same product.

I am currently on a comp stg 2. Although it is light on pedal pressure & holds a lot of torque, it shifts like garbage for me & I am running the un-sprung disc. Besides that, if you happen to slip the clutch while on a hill, stuck in traffic, etc, the disc let's off a horrible smell & begins to make a urrrr type noise.

I recommend the basic act sprung combo. Especially since your on stock internals... no need to over clutch the car & break $hit.

 

Every SD Exedy I have had experience with has simply not lasted. I wouldn't even consider one. The HD would be the minimum and even then I don't think that they are worth the price.

 

Care to elaborate? How did it not last? did you launch much?

I agree.

The reason for me asking, is that i need something that doesnt mind being slipped in a hilly area with traffic & is light for pedal feel & can hold ~500wtq/dj #'s.

comp 2 is light in feel, but has less life for me than my exedy twin hd. Sadly, the hd was too much for my old bones = knee.

 

They just went between 15k and 30K. A simple search on this site in addition to my friends personal use all showed that these clutches, easy to shift and light on the calves, do not last that long. you are shoving two plates in the space of what used to be ones so that friction material is less than HALF of a Street Disk plate. The reason for that smoothness is simply you are scrubbing off that direct clamp you'd otherwise get with a bare trap act with a lighter pressure plate and more rubbing between multiple surfaces. It just wares down faster.

Me? Give me a heavy pressure plate that won't slip and a 6 puck that bites. Now if you do not have finesse you can shatter your drive-train right quick, but I am more that experienced enough to handle this.

 

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There is a lot of misleading posts & views on these boards, even bad 2nd or 3rd hand info.

I asked the direct question to you for first hand experience on the sd clutch for an evo 8/9. I am giving my first hand experience & anyone / everyone cant take it or leave it... I just prefer that 1st hand info is out there & isnt biased 1 way or another.

yeah, search comp stg 2 clutches & you will read 95% awesome, I have 1 & its garbage. it stinks if you slightly slip it, shifts worse than the stock unit. Yeah, it can hold 550wtq & has a light pedal pressure, but the smell is terrible, imagine tires on fire burning

Read about act clutches, you will see ~75% people have lock out issues, not so with either the street disc or 6 puck disc i used, i like them.

The older 6 puck sprung hub didnt care for ~600 ft/lbs of tq on a regular basis in my case, no launching... yet the act website claims Torque Capacity (ft/lbs.): 650 / Recommended for high horsepower street or race use, heaven forbid i used it as a dd clutch & it $hit itself while having fun thru the twisties going to work..

Once again, i am asking for personal experiences with a certain product.

Regardless, Thank for sharing your insight though Just trying to help out the OP

 

Listen, I know you are trying to sell stuff and that is OK. I have been in the DSM/EVO game since the mid 90's. I know what works on these cars and what doesn't. None of my information is bias as it is simply accumulated from years of experience and dealing with people who are a lot smarter than me. What is READILY apparent is that you have some skin in this game, selling a $1,300-$1,600 clutch that lasts 30K MAYBE is much better for business than a simple XTSS that lasts twice as long if not longer.

God forbid someone searches and reads what I wrote, that might hurt a sale or two right?


The HD Twin Disk is a great clutch, just have the cash to shell out on a MASSIVE labor bill and when this tincy weency discs ware down to outside of spec you have no clutch. If the thing lasted at all 'd say it was great but longevity is a costly issue, especially at more than twice an XTSS.


Regards

 

i'm really sure they don't use wtq numbers. at least i assumed they didn't. 650tq = 520 or so wtq?
i've always used ACT clutches. i used non-sprung 6-pucks with extreme pressure plates on my old hondas with 350-400whp an my friends with 600whp. of course, that's only about 350ftlbs LOL. still, no issues, even while drag racing. i used a sprung disk with with HD PP on both of my evos that did fine up to about 350wtq. no "lockout" though i admit i only took one of the Evos to the drag strip once. i'm now going unsprung 6 puck with another HD PP for 400wtq.
i'll use ACT until something happens to change my mind.

i had one disintegrate on me. one of the springs broke out of the disk and lodged itself into the PP. i had to pull the clutch off with the trans and CUT the fingers out to get the TOB off. it was NOT fun.

you are asking for a LOT.

 

you must have me confused with someone else, as i dont sell new clutches of any kind. Never have.

did you also miss the part where I recommended getting the OP getting a basic act clutch for his ride. I never suggested to him to buy an exedy or any clutch that costs $1300-$1600 bucks

This is what the OP originally asked....you & I are on the same page for which brand of clutch to get, i am just recommending the lighter version...

 

I recommend a heavy XTSS or if you are up to it, a Spring 6 Puck. An Un-sprung I have run but it is basically a light switch at that point. Torque ratings for a clutch are generally at the engine, not the wheels.

 

depends. i road race and don't like the XT PP for as often as i'm shifting, especially down shifts. i don't want springs any more after having one break on me. i've used unsprung 6-pucks for years with extreme PPs, maybe i'm used to it? my current Evo isn't a daily driver so i'm not worried. if i was DDing, it would be a waaaaaaaay different story.

this is all assume you were including me in your comment LOL

and yes, tq numbers at the engine. i agree.

 

what about this oem replacement, EXEDY part number MBK1001 i attached the link

http://www.1aauto.com/2003-06-mitsub...FdgDgQodmKoAdQ

 

You know what you're getting with OEM. Personally if I'm paying 1k plus for a clutch replacement what's another 2-3 hundred for a better clutch. Just my opinion, good luck with what ever you decide.