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Old May 19, 2017 | 06:38 PM
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E85 or 93?

Slowly but surely finishing my 2.4 build in my 8. Turbo tuff rods and Wiseco pistons. 9.0:1 cr. Will be a bb 6262 turbo setup. Stock head with upgraded springs and 272s. Wally 450 and 1200cc injectors. Stock computer. All the other basic bolt ons.
My real question is should I run it on 93 or e85. Ethanol is more than everywhere around me, pretty much every station has it and it's all within 2-4% of each other.
What will bring me more power? We all know ethanol requires more fuel, but gives better power and vice versa for 93. I plan on running injectors between 87% and 93% duty.
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Old May 19, 2017 | 07:33 PM
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Sell the 1200's, get some 2150's, tune for E85. You'll make a ton more power. Will need a bigger fuel pump too. E85 is definitely well worth it.
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Old May 20, 2017 | 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by e_kobz
Sell the 1200's, get some 2150's, tune for E85. You'll make a ton more power. Will need a bigger fuel pump too. E85 is definitely well worth it.
This I know, just not what I'm interested in. Would like to see as close to 600 as possible.
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Old May 20, 2017 | 06:52 AM
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I can tell you which fuel is less likely to blow up your motor at 600hp.
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Old May 20, 2017 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Biggiesacks
I can tell you which fuel is less likely to blow up your motor at 600hp.

i beams and 1400's. I hope and pray neither does.
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Old May 20, 2017 | 09:40 AM
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Get a switch, tune for both.
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Old May 20, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Laxman
Get a switch, tune for both.
is this possible on stock computer?
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Old May 20, 2017 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ckeesee12
is this possible on stock computer?
Yes. A good tuner can do it. Does require a little bit of soldering
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Old May 21, 2017 | 12:26 AM
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Or just use tephra mod and call it a day
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Old May 25, 2017 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ckeesee12
i beams and 1400's. I hope and pray neither does.
There is no material in this world which will prevent a motor from blowing from excessive cylinder pressures from knock.
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Old May 25, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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if your fuel system is good for E85... then there is zero reason not to use it...
its like race gas for less than 2 bucks a gallon.
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Old May 25, 2017 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ckeesee12
My real question is should I run it on 93 or e85..
Originally Posted by Ckeesee12
What will bring me more power?
E85 will make more power than 93 in every.single.case.
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Old May 26, 2017 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ckeesee12
is this possible on stock computer?
you can even run flexfuel on stock ecu with proper mods..
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Old May 26, 2017 | 03:47 AM
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you can even run flexfuel on stock ecu with proper mods..
Best investment I've made for the EVO yet.
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Old May 26, 2017 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hutch959
if your fuel system is good for E85... then there is zero reason not to use it...
its like race gas for less than 2 bucks a gallon.
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E85 will make more power than 93 in every.single.case.
Because e85 takes 30% more fuel, I was more wondering if there is a point where if I have the car that additional 30% on a 93 tune, if it would make more power.


Originally Posted by GTijoejoe
There is no material in this world which will prevent a motor from blowing from excessive cylinder pressures from knock.
​​​​​​​this I know. I have some of the better quality parts and a damn good tuner. The comment was more a joke.
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