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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 07:34 PM
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450-500hp stock longblock safe turbo

I’m ready to once again make more power but not sure what’s best for me. I would like something that can perform at the strip( light) and on the street. I love the response of my stock turbo and want something not to laggy. I was going to purchase the ets 5858 kit but not sure if I want to spend that much money if there’s something cheaper that can achieve same results.
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 08:21 PM
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 05:12 AM
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fp red
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 06:56 AM
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He said something not too laggy and a monster turbo graph shows up, love it! That guy better save for an engine soon taking a stock bottom end to 8500, yikes!
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric SlowEvo8
fp red
is the ss housing red okay? Or does it not perform like the mhi
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 07:57 AM
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more than fine 564/506 here on one hits hard and fast , my last car was a 6466 now this one came with a red and the lag difference its crazy haha this one is instant, but for my goals I want to go 6466 so ill be selling my red set up so I can go 700+ hp

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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 10:47 AM
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If you want a fun street car that spools up near stock and has part throttle boost then I would recommend a FP RED MHI. It will easily hit the 400 tq limit of the stock block around 3800-4200 if you want it to and carry the torque out better then a green. You can easily make 500whp/600whp with the right fueling and tuning.

If you can't send a good MHI core to FP to build then a SS green would be the next choice. If you want to spend less you could also do a HTA 71 but it may fall a bit short of 500 and have a smaller powerband.

If you want more top end then a PTE 5858 will also work well with the stock block rpm limit. 8000ish

I've had the red on my stock engine and a built one and it continues to deliver . It will make 20psi by 3800-4000 and has a great powerband to 8000.

Whatever route you take, develop a check list and make sure you have the supporting mods and a good tuner. Pump gas is low boost, E85 for high boost.

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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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Just talked to Michael from FP and he has two reds with a housing simialr to mhi. Housing is from a company in Australia called lamspeed racing. Lamspeed has had success with them and I believe he said they have sold turbos with that housing

Now I need to either find an mhi for peace of mind or just use the lamspeed one(spool is a little off from mhi housing)

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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 02:57 PM
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Bought an htz red with less than 1k with proof. I’m excited and nervous at the same time. Will be purchasing an ebc to get rid of my mbc. Alredy have and tuned on s2s and all other common supporting mods
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 07:03 PM
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I have an ss red. Its a bad *** setup. The lag is greater then any twinscroll fp set up but its not like a t4 turbo or something giant. Brake boost and you cant tell. The thing comes alive after 20 psi or so
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 07:17 PM
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Nobody mentioned my BBK Full JB or BB! Lol
Spools at lightning speed untill 8000 and good power band too!
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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 07:33 PM
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I hope I didn’t shoot myself in the foot buying the jb over the bb . Won’t know how bad lag/response will be until it’s on

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Old Sep 28, 2017 | 09:15 PM
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I hope I didn’t shoot myself in the foot buying the jb over the bb . Won’t know how bad lag/response will be until it’s on
Having some LAG is also fun. You will get used to it.
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Old Sep 29, 2017 | 05:08 AM
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mine is jb and no issues and spools fast
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Old Sep 29, 2017 | 07:45 AM
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full fp red kit ss housing external gate and all what is it worth 3k miles only
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