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Old Mar 27, 2018 | 06:56 PM
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Airtrek block direct swap?

My block is shot and I’m hunting for a new one. I came across these Airtrek engines on eBay for good prices. I know the stuff that bolts on and the cams are different but is that it? Is it basically a detuned evo engine?
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 07:56 AM
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Yes, as you have written, it is basically a detuned evo 7 engine with less aggressive cam profile (253deg, 8.5lift), different valve springs, smaller injectors (450cc), smaller turbocharger (TD04), with a longer running intake manifold primaries.
There are many available on ebay including the top mounted intercooler and the drivetrain attached to it.
If you want an upgrade, a Evo 8 platform would do you well along with the fmic.
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 08:00 AM
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I may have read your intentions wrongly.
Do you actually want to swap an Airtrek engine in your Evo?
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by midegade
I may have read your intentions wrongly.
Do you actually want to swap an Airtrek engine in your Evo?
I was looking at options to replace a blown engine in my evo 8. I threw a rod through the pan. Its probably going to be my dd now so I haven't decided how crazy I want to get with building the motor.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 05:35 PM
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long block works with out intake manifold

i would try to get an evo gta engine a little stronger 2002

2001 4g63 engine was weak
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by evo8vz
long block works with out intake manifold

i would try to get an evo gta engine a little stronger 2002

2001 4g63 engine was weak
Thanks man. I haven’t come across those yet. I’ll do some digging though.
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Old Apr 3, 2018 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Aldoraine99
I was looking at options to replace a blown engine in my evo 8. I threw a rod through the pan. Its probably going to be my dd now so I haven't decided how crazy I want to get with building the motor.
Ok understood.
It really depends on the year Airtrek motor you will get.
Early 2002-4 Airtrek engines reused the Evo 4 pistons/rods in the Evo 7 block, but I believe the 2005 Airtrek used the same pistons as the Evo 7 GT-A.
If I were you, I would get an Evo 8 short block, stock or built, since the head for the Airtrek is detuned and will not be of much use.
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Old Aug 10, 2018 | 08:13 PM
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very interesting.
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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 10:40 AM
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indeed very interesting...
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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 03:55 PM
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I know this is somewhat of an old post but I’m gonna talk about my experience. I was in the same boat. Blew my Evo 8 motor and the block and crank were trashed. I saw the Airtrek engines on eBay and researched for several days before I decided to go ahead and buy one. $1600 shipped for a complete running 50k mile engine compared to $1500-2000 for a bare block and head. I thought what the hell!! Stripped it down to the bare long block. The differences in the short block that I can tell are a different oil pan, pick up tube, no oil squirters and you have to use an Outlander water pump. The head itself is the same other than the valve springs and cams. I swapped those out for kiggly springs and Kelford 272s. Swapped my old water neck housing, intake and exhaust manifolds, oil pick up tube, oil pan and went ahead and did balance shaft delete. Everything else was pretty straight forward other than the Evo water pump not working. Bought the Outlander 2.4 pump and good to go. I’m running a Holset 60mm HX40 with pump 93 and meth spray, 29psi and making 540whp on the bone stock Airtrek bottom end on a pretty conservative tune. I’ve had it in there for about 18 months and around 7-8k miles now with no issues. I kinda wish I had went ahead and did a full build on it so I could push it on up to 700-800hp but I’m pretty dang happy with it as is.
So, is the pistons and rods stock?
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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 11:56 AM
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Yes completely stock bottom end other than balance shaft delete. Still running strong. I have since put on a slightly smaller, better spooling turbo (7 blade HX35) and turned the boost down a smidge. Prob closer to 500hp/400tq now.
I brought a evo 5 . Didn't know it has a evo 4 engine shaped into it im abit worrried about the crank walk . I have forged parts and a 5 head so thinking of building another spare engine.. interms of of the airtrex were you able to swap the oil squirter off the old block? Or are you running without. Thanks for the reply applicate it..
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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 12:35 PM
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Airtrek has oil squirters, Just a different design to that of the evo.
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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sikest
Airtrek has oil squirters, Just a different design to that of the evo.
I'm gona buy a engine this week see how ot goes .. are there at least holes to swap them over ? Thanks.
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