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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 05:33 PM
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you do have a flex fuel tune and sensor... correct?
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:07 PM
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you do have a flex fuel tune and sensor... correct?
yes
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 08:09 PM
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Octane booster is snake oil and doesn't work. You need to live some place that sells good fuel (not California), switch to E-85 (requires parts and a tune) or learn to use what is available.
I tried snake oil once, and the engine didnt like it lol.
no but seriously I am not moving just to fill up better fuel haha. I'm thinking of switching in that case to e85 probably get someone who knows what's up to take care of it for me
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Old Feb 26, 2019 | 09:00 PM
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Sounds like everyone has you pretty much filled in. Also sounds like that car was pretty nuts before you bought it and they just tossed on the smaller turbo, injectors, etc for the sale. You can sell off a lot of those parts, buy replacements, and possibly have some cash left over. You will definitely have a better driving car. It has so much stuff done.. you are kinda stuck in the middle.

1. Is the bottom end built so that you can toss on a giant turbo and injectors and make 700whp?
2. Do you get rid of all the stuff you don't really need, otherwise, and build around the IX or other smaller turbo?

Either way is gonna take some work on your end and some money out of pocket. The way the car is, right now, is definitely no bueno.

Any idea which way you want to go?

Clutch will depend on which route you go with the car. But the current clutch is overkill for just about anything shy of 500+ftlbs of torque For the IX turbo, and ACT HDSS will hold up to anything it can dish out.
The cold start could just be tune related. Hard to say, though. I'd have someone look it over, along with a data log, if you can.
OEM heat range, copper core plugs will burn nicely and are cheap to replace. Iridiums are fine if you don't want to swap them out as often.

As for the parts, if you aren't looking for anything north of 500whp, you can:
skunk throttle body: sell and install OEM.
850cc injectors: safe for 425whp on pump gas, 300whp on e85. You can push them a bit more if you feel brave enough
haltech standalone ecu: sell, get an OEM ECU and pocket the change!
8 leg triple disc ceramic clutch: sell, purchase an ACT HDSS, pocket the change.
Full exhaust 3": keep. perfect.
head studs: already there, so may as well keep them.
stealth performance fuel pump: not familiar with them, but a Walbro 255 fits in the stock location, needs no modifications, and can support about 475ish WHP.
full intake with cold air: not exactly sure what this is, but should be fine.

So, you have options... but have a way to go, in which ever direction you choose. The current parts are horribly mismatched.

P.S. I've tried Torco octane booster, in a pinch, and it seemed to work well. It's basically just race gas you can add, if needed, but nothing I'd want to run on a regular basis. Also, it only provides a minimum bump unless you add a TON and e85 is better, anyway.
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 09:49 AM
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Sounds like everyone has you pretty much filled in. Also sounds like that car was pretty nuts before you bought it and they just tossed on the smaller turbo, injectors, etc for the sale. You can sell off a lot of those parts, buy replacements, and possibly have some cash left over. You will definitely have a better driving car. It has so much stuff done.. you are kinda stuck in the middle.

1. Is the bottom end built so that you can toss on a giant turbo and injectors and make 700whp?
2. Do you get rid of all the stuff you don't really need, otherwise, and build around the IX or other smaller turbo?

Either way is gonna take some work on your end and some money out of pocket. The way the car is, right now, is definitely no bueno.

Any idea which way you want to go?

Clutch will depend on which route you go with the car. But the current clutch is overkill for just about anything shy of 500+ftlbs of torque For the IX turbo, and ACT HDSS will hold up to anything it can dish out.
The cold start could just be tune related. Hard to say, though. I'd have someone look it over, along with a data log, if you can.
OEM heat range, copper core plugs will burn nicely and are cheap to replace. Iridiums are fine if you don't want to swap them out as often.

As for the parts, if you aren't looking for anything north of 500whp, you can:
skunk throttle body: sell and install OEM.
850cc injectors: safe for 425whp on pump gas, 300whp on e85. You can push them a bit more if you feel brave enough
haltech standalone ecu: sell, get an OEM ECU and pocket the change!
8 leg triple disc ceramic clutch: sell, purchase an ACT HDSS, pocket the change.
Full exhaust 3": keep. perfect.
head studs: already there, so may as well keep them.
stealth performance fuel pump: not familiar with them, but a Walbro 255 fits in the stock location, needs no modifications, and can support about 475ish WHP.
full intake with cold air: not exactly sure what this is, but should be fine.

So, you have options... but have a way to go, in which ever direction you choose. The current parts are horribly mismatched.

P.S. I've tried Torco octane booster, in a pinch, and it seemed to work well. It's basically just race gas you can add, if needed, but nothing I'd want to run on a regular basis. Also, it only provides a minimum bump unless you add a TON and e85 is better, anyway.
AH the options the options. Honestly I'm not sure what way I'll go but either way I do not want to rape the car. I bought a act clutch today and thinking of changing ecu and probably going more or less stock. I agree with you that the guy just swapped a few parts before sale but I cannot confirm just speculate. Like I said I bought the car for low miles and look but now have to deal with all this little bs.
do you know if I change the ecu to stock, is it difficult? The haltech ecu, is it hardwired or something? Do I need to change anything else if I change the ecu?
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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I honestly have no idea about the ECU, though nowadays most options are plug and play. Hopefully yours will be that easy to swap.
at least the car is driveable, while you do all this!
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 08:24 PM
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Look under your glove compartment. Is there a plastic cover that's hiding a cluster of wires?
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Old Feb 27, 2019 | 11:45 PM
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Not sure if you're in so cal, but if you are, there's another option. Bring the car and the clutch you just got to an evo specialized shop named RRE (RoadRaceEngineering.com) to let them install the clutch and also take a look at the car and listen to what you wanted and really needed with the car. I just afraid you may get more headache with replacing the parts and eventually give up on it which is such a good car.

PS. You mentioned running between e85 and pump gas, no mentioned about flex-fuel capability, so I assumed you actually run either straight e85 or gas (with very minimal mixture between tanks) and know how to switch map. Correct? Just wanted to be sure because it can be fatal for the car if not.
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer
Look under your glove compartment. Is there a plastic cover that's hiding a cluster of wires?
I have gotten to the ecu and played with connecting it to my computer though nothing there I understand lol
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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Not sure if you're in so cal, but if you are, there's another option. Bring the car and the clutch you just got to an evo specialized shop named RRE (RoadRaceEngineering.com) to let them install the clutch and also take a look at the car and listen to what you wanted and really needed with the car. I just afraid you may get more headache with replacing the parts and eventually give up on it which is such a good car.

PS. You mentioned running between e85 and pump gas, no mentioned about flex-fuel capability, so I assumed you actually run either straight e85 or gas (with very minimal mixture between tanks) and know how to switch map. Correct? Just wanted to be sure because it can be fatal for the car if not.
I'm in norcal. I was basing running e85 off of what the sales guy at the dealership told me but I'm glad you guys set me straight on that, I poured a full tank of 91 and idles better
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:50 AM
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I honestly have no idea about the ECU, though nowadays most options are plug and play. Hopefully yours will be that easy to swap.
at least the car is driveable, while you do all this!
yeah, I got a better option for myself yesterday. Bought q different evo with 9700 miles and pretty much stock . Now thinking of just upgrading this other one to its rightful potential? I mean unless that's a bad idea?
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Old Mar 1, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Redblackviper
yeah, I got a better option for myself yesterday. Bought q different evo with 9700 miles and pretty much stock . Now thinking of just upgrading this other one to its rightful potential? I mean unless that's a bad idea?
Nothing wrong with that. It may be a good idea to pull the motor apart enough to tell if it's built or not, and to what extent. So many questions, unless the seller had receipts for parts, etc.
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Old Mar 10, 2019 | 03:38 PM
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Nothing wrong with that. It may be a good idea to pull the motor apart enough to tell if it's built or not, and to what extent. So many questions, unless the seller had receipts for parts, etc.
Took it to a shop and a few parts have been pulled. Got a act clutch that will go in soon. Check out this pump, do you think this will work with the setup? I decided to upgrade the car more by changing the injectors and turbo.
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Old Mar 10, 2019 | 04:12 PM
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Hey bud, hope you got everything that was needed and aslo enjoying your new toy.
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