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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 03:08 PM
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New Product HKS GT III RS

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HKS has released a new bolt on turbo, the GT III RS. From the "dyno" plot it looks like it makes a bit more power, but with the same spool time. Also the surge seems to be addressed, but that is un-confirmed. price is $2800 retail.

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https://www.hksusa.com/products/11004/AM007/32
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 04:10 PM
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Not much info. Is it JB or BB? No torque curve? It looks almost like stock lag (impressive!) but if they are boosting 26-27psi, that won't work well for 91 octane. If this power is on 93 octane, I can build a 20G 9 blade Green will make the same power with a little more lag but my turbo is about half that cost.

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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by lv05evo
it looks like it makes a bit more power, but with the same spool time.
..than what?
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 07:40 PM
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..than what?
Sorry should have mentioned old/outgoing GT II unit.

Would like to know if the turbine housing is the same as the GT II? If I remember correctly that one was like a mitsubishi 9.8 size.
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer
Not much info. Is it JB or BB? No torque curve? It looks almost like stock lag (impressive!) but if they are boosting 26-27psi, that won't work well for 91 octane. If this power is on 93 octane, I can build a 20G 9 blade Green will make the same power with a little more lag but my turbo is about half that cost.
For the price I would hope BB because that is what the old/outgoing GT II model had.

It would be nice if someone with more Evo turbo knowledge knew about this turbo. I was thinking maybe it was at SEMA and someone could share more info.
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 07:45 PM
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I'm sorry but if HKS can't even be bothered to post actual specs on their page, I can't see myself dropping $2800. There's so many good options for way less, I just don't see where the value is.
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 08:17 PM
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What is the yellow/orange GT-III RS line?
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Old Mar 26, 2019 | 09:06 PM
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This looks like a FP Red with quicker spool. I'd like to see this HKS turbo pushed with E85. I suspect the BB is smaller than the FP units to help with spool and probably run out of steam sooner than FP's BB version.
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Old Mar 27, 2019 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Fox_IX
I'm sorry but if HKS can't even be bothered to post actual specs on their page, I can't see myself dropping $2800. There's so many good options for way less, I just don't see where the value is.
If you're about to spend $2,800 on a turbo and disqualify something because you can't find information you want about it, that's just lazy. Pick up the phone and call them.
The GTII was a great turbo, it performed very well on Evos. Maxed out, there aren't many turbos that performed better in terms of response vs. overall power. It was on par with the EFR line, but was smaller than the 7670, which some people here would say is already too small. Even FP turbos are around the same price range these days. The value is in something stock frame that performs well all-around; nobody can deny that the GTII performed well, but if HKS addressed the GTII's failure points, and the GTIII makes more power than the old one, it is a hell of a turbo.
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Old Mar 27, 2019 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RS200
If you're about to spend $2,800 on a turbo and disqualify something because you can't find information you want about it, that's just lazy. Pick up the phone and call them.
The GTII was a great turbo, it performed very well on Evos. Maxed out, there aren't many turbos that performed better in terms of response vs. overall power. It was on par with the EFR line, but was smaller than the 7670, which some people here would say is already too small. Even FP turbos are around the same price range these days. The value is in something stock frame that performs well all-around; nobody can deny that the GTII performed well, but if HKS addressed the GTII's failure points, and the GTIII makes more power than the old one, it is a hell of a turbo.


There are reports that the 7460 was somewhat fragile. I really like the concept of this new turbo, but I would also want to see some real-world reports first.
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Old Mar 27, 2019 | 06:08 AM
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What is the yellow/orange GT-III RS line?
I'll answer my own question:

The Japanese writing says "With Restrictor". The orange line shows the new turbo with the optional restrictor in place. The restrictor is designed to limit airflow to the maximum supported by the stock fuel system.

I'm not sure why the boost curve moves left with the restrictor in place.
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Originally Posted by RS200
If you're about to spend $2,800 on a turbo and disqualify something because you can't find information you want about it, that's just lazy. Pick up the phone and call them.
The GTII was a great turbo, it performed very well on Evos. Maxed out, there aren't many turbos that performed better in terms of response vs. overall power. It was on par with the EFR line, but was smaller than the 7670, which some people here would say is already too small. Even FP turbos are around the same price range these days. The value is in something stock frame that performs well all-around; nobody can deny that the GTII performed well, but if HKS addressed the GTII's failure points, and the GTIII makes more power than the old one, it is a hell of a turbo.
I think what he meant to say is for $2800, he's not willing to risk when a BB FP Red is about the same price that has already proven itself.

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Old Mar 27, 2019 | 07:37 AM
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nice, if my GT II ever dies i'll have an upgrade path.
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Originally Posted by Construct
I'll answer my own question:

The Japanese writing says "With Restrictor". The orange line shows the new turbo with the optional restrictor in place. The restrictor is designed to limit airflow to the maximum supported by the stock fuel system.

I'm not sure why the boost curve moves left with the restrictor in place.
This makes perfect sense now. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by 2006EvoIXer
This looks like a FP Red with quicker spool. I'd like to see this HKS turbo pushed with E85. I suspect the BB is smaller than the FP units to help with spool and probably run out of steam sooner than FP's BB version.
I remember the older GT II model made decent power (For it's size) on e85 with quick spool. Only problem was the high EGT would break the waste gate flapper from what I remember. I'll see if I can dig up old posts.
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