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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 07:12 AM
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I am pretty sure Evo X 440 used MHI18 turbo.

To Austin's point, Blouch XT1, i.e. BBK-Full, is nearly as wonderful as HKS 7460. HKS was a bit "better" in every way, being Ball bearing vs plain, arguably a bit sooner spooling, faster responding, and perhaps having a tiny bit on top.

Speaking of awesome turbo BBK-3B, i.e Blouch XTII is it: superb. It is perfect- say for someone having a 2.0 and wanting more but without the heavy tax of FP Red in spool.
Or 2.2/2.3 motor and best spool.

The HKS GT3 I've "met a guy" who had it, and it was as promised on HKS dyno sheets. It was slower spooling and had more on top.
It will make way more than 41lbs so it's weird to make it legal in 41lbs flow rate class.
But whateve.r


FYI: regarding your dyno 397 on Mustang.. please don't compare Mustang to Mustang. It is totally easy to calibrate it to anything.
Don't worry, Evo 9 turbo can only flow what it can, and citing a turbo making certain power is nothing without baseline.

That is WHY, I said, Evo 9 stock puts 215whp and all out on E85 Evo 9 could reach 375whp on this dyno...but this turbo will die sooner than later due to being pushed way hard.

So don't get hung up that you have some miracle child. Evo 9 turbo is what it is, and HKS is what it is, and that is irrespectable of dyno: dyno is measuring tool to measure.
I'm aware that comparing dynos to other dynos is a bit of a crap shoot, I have a good deal of baseline on this dyno (car made 365whp on the OEM block, 320 on 93 on OEM block). My issue is that HKS didn't say what it is, and I can't find anyone who's tuned with it or any numbers for it. That's my hangup.
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
Evo X turbo is standard rotation, it won't fit on an evo 8/9 unless you make a custom hots part kit around it and it won't fit well either because everything has to be backwards.

The rules are worded a bit poorly because the HKS turbo example given is referencing the Subaru version, which is around 41lb/min (the compressor dimensions are very similar to an 18g). From what I've seen the evo version does not use the same compressor and turbine (may be wrong on that tho) so you'd still have to prove its legality, unless you're trying to exploit a word loophole.
Exploiting the word loophole is the goal, yeah. That turbo is explicitly legal according to the rules, so I'd certainly exploit that if it's worth it. If the GTII is in fact the Evo X turbo, I'd just use the Evo 9 bolt-on version of it since it's evidently "the same turbo."
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 07:16 AM
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Have you tried contacting HKS yet?
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ayoustin
Have you tried contacting HKS yet?
I've emailed them, waiting on a response.
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by alpinaturbo
I am pretty sure Evo X 440 used MHI18 turbo.

To Austin's point, Blouch XT1, i.e. BBK-Full, is nearly as wonderful as HKS 7460. HKS was a bit "better" in every way, being Ball bearing vs plain, arguably a bit sooner spooling, faster responding, and perhaps having a tiny bit on top.

Speaking of awesome turbo BBK-3B, i.e Blouch XTII is it: superb. It is perfect- say for someone having a 2.0 and wanting more but without the heavy tax of FP Red in spool.
Or 2.2/2.3 motor and best spool.

The HKS GT3 I've "met a guy" who had it, and it was as promised on HKS dyno sheets. It was slower spooling and had more on top.
It will make way more than 41lbs so it's weird to make it legal in 41lbs flow rate class.
But whateve.r


FYI: regarding your dyno 397 on Mustang.. please don't compare Mustang to Mustang. It is totally easy to calibrate it to anything.
Don't worry, Evo 9 turbo can only flow what it can, and citing a turbo making certain power is nothing without baseline.

That is WHY, I said, Evo 9 stock puts 215whp and all out on E85 Evo 9 could reach 375whp on this dyno...but this turbo will die sooner than later due to being pushed way hard.

So don't get hung up that you have some miracle child. Evo 9 turbo is what it is, and HKS is what it is, and that is irrespectable of dyno: dyno is measuring tool to measure.
Alpina, who was the guy you met who tuned with it?
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 09:12 AM
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https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-ps-530nm.html

I cannot find the dynos that my friend posted, so I'll have to ask what happened. But they were mirroring the HKS dynos in terms of relationship of 7460 to 8262 (GT2 to GT3).

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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 09:15 AM
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Ah right, I saw this thread before I made mine. Did you ever get an answer on what a stock X makes on that dyno?
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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 01:21 PM
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Got this information from HKS after emailing them. So confirmed the GTIII is journal bearing. I then compared it to the OEM IX turbo:




https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ence-only.html


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Old Nov 1, 2021 | 07:22 PM
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I wasn't implying using an evox turbo. There were Evo VI TME turbos that came with al-ti turbines. Reverse rotation. I would love to see rule text, as I bet there are creative ways to be legit and make 41lbs with super fast response..
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Old Nov 18, 2021 | 08:44 PM
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My evo9 with HKS7460, almost maxed out on E85 467AWHP on mustang dyno. Evo9 turbo is great but not same.
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