I have sent emails to Piper to acquire a set of their cams here in the US, but i have had no response from them. Anyone have any idea of where to get a hold of their stuff?

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I have been lurking the lancer register since i purchased , and many people on there are swearing by these cams.

Anyone with some useful infomation, i would appreciate your suggestions. I would really like to hear a comparisons of the cams agains others- simply, i am looking for an alternative to HKS, Tomei, JUN, etc- anything that will give me the indication as to which set of cams is optimal for my future plans. TIA

 

Quantum-racing!

 

Mark at Quantum Racing has them. Give him a call, he got all the drivetrain goodies you'll need to run those cams too, at a package price.

www.quantum-racing.com
(937) 642 5400

 

as for the second part, the Piper's are the highest lift/duration combo I've found. If you want to run a big turbo, they will spool it a little faster. With those cams, you'll still be restriced by the stock head and intake manifold so benefits without other upgrades may be minimal.

 

thanks for the helping hand. These cams really bring up questions as to where i want to go with my car at this time.

 

yeah, you really only need cams like that if you plan on going all out. engine build, ported head, etc....

 

Proper cams will help any combo. Lift is not all thats in a good cam profile and if the Pipers make more on a big motor than the HKS, they will also make more on a mild motor. I say if because I havent seen true conclusive dyno results yet.

Matt

 

from an engineering standpoint, this should be true. they will also yield better results with the proper modifications. the benefits in stock form should be the greatest in comparison to other cams, while opening up the flow of air should yield even greater gains.

another thing i am looking at is what well known tuners are using for profiles and brands with their demo cars.

For right now, i want to piece my setup together until i build the bottom end. I want a setup where i can realize usable gains now, and still reap the benefits later if i choose to go all out ie. get a set of cams that i can use with my basic bolt ons, and later have the same cams in my equation running 8.5:1-9.0:1 compression with a different turbo, as well as an upgraded head, intake manifold, turbo, etc.

Lottery #s please.

 

I'll second the comment about Quantum Racing being a great source for these cams. I ordered a set of Piper Rally cams from Mark on Wednsday and will have them in my hands Friday night. I was lucky enough to catch them with a set of what I wanted in stock, and asked him to overnight them for me. If the cams aren't in stock at Quantum, Mark said he can usually get them to his shop in 4 or 5 days if they are on the shelf in the UK.

I moved to the Piper Ralley cams because the JUNs 264's I ordered are unlikely to be available until the end of June or later. I've always liked the Pipers, but the price had scared me off. After some new digging it looked like they would be worth the cost so I switched. I had already purchased Ferrea valve springs and retainers from Quantum and was really happy with the experience. I'll be installing the cams, springs and retainers, a set of cam gears, and a walbro fuel pump this weekend. After everthing is in working, I plan to get the new set-up tuned on a dyno.

I just collected some "pre-cams" data with my G-Tech so I'll post before and after info once I have the cams installed and broken in.

 

just to point something out, piper cams are very good in any evo. their demo rums the ultimate road cams with a stock (ish) turbo and other minor mods and is producing 400bhp and 400lbs ft. they are the best in the world at the minute and will have something for everyone, be it a 500bhp+ monster or a lightly modded daily drive! if you are unsure speak to Quantum, or try and get hold of piper in the uk, although i think they are very busy at the mo with development and stuff!

thanks Chris.

 

ummmmm, first, the stock compression ratio for the evo already falls between 8.5:1 - 9.0:1 as it is 8.8:1, so not sure what you meant by that. Also, I think a few people need to (re)read David Buschur's flow bench results on the stock cylinder head. basically the stock evo head flows like crap on the exhaust side. anything more than .300" (7.63mm) does not produce any more flow. HOWEVER, with a nice port and some oversized valves, you will see a lot more power. Like I said before, it depends on how far you want to go.

 

You're dead center with my thinking. My car will eventually see a ported head and bigger turbo, plus the other supporting mods.

Oh, Mark had my cams to me right on time!

 

forgive me for the compression ratio error, i sometimes get stuck on figures from my last car(from 10.0:1 to 8.5:1)- still hard to let go.

as for the rest of your comments, i do need to start doing my homework a little more before dropping the $$ on a set of cams.

 

erioshi-
can you give me an idea of what you are running for management, head specs, bottom end, etc? I am after a combination that someone else has already done the research for and has yielded proper results with. someone blew the motor in my last car, so i am making extreme efforts to ensure that i am never put into that situation again. TIA

 

I'm not sure my car will be much help to you Serge. The engine is almost stock, I have an XEDE for engine management with an XEDE flash for my ECU. My exhaust is the "Standard" turbo back system from Vishnu with a high flow cat. With the new cams I will be installing a Walbro and some cam gears. I will probably also try out a K&N Typhoon intake, but it will come out if it acts up.

I'm going with the Piper cams because they will have the capacity to make maximum use of the the mods I'll be doing in the future, in addition to adding good gains now. Those mods will include larger fuel injectors, a larger turbo and exhaust manifold, head work, intercooler and piping, etc. I plan to go pretty far with this car, but do it one mod at a time and check my results as I go. I do a fair number of track days, so my car has seen alot of energy put into working with the suspension and brakes, too.

If I was going to spend the money for a "package" solution, I would strongly consider either the Vishnu or Bushur paths. Both of them have lots of satisfied customers and are delivering solid results. To me it's kind of a "Coke or Pepsi" question. Both choices seem to be solid.

The main reasons I purchased my Vishnu components is the OEM like quality and "understated" feel. Having a hidden piggy-back and quiet exhaust (with a cat) fits the feel I wanted.

Hope this helps.