hey Noize, did you get Shiv's ok on the cams? just kidding. My car has the 272 cams on both sides and you heard it idle. no problems at all. some times it idles just like stock and some times just a little lope. no bad though.

 

I don't mean to be defensive, but last night you were questioning Doug's abilities and basically putting him down and you don't know him. You don't know his capabilities either. He is young, but I truely believe he will be well known for his mechanical/tuning capabilities in the near future. He tuned our car and they are fast, real fast. The record is 11.6. That was in cold weather and a bad *** driver. I am inconsistant, but steadily improving. Snoop was asking me how many times I've run the 1/4 and Iwas like only 4 runs ever. He just looked at me crazy. Hell, before I came back from Iraq, I didn't even know what an injector was. I learned quick and with Dougs help rebuilt my engine, put a new clutch in, etc... You test George's patience too. Why so much. Do you have your own shop. No. I argue with people on these forums from time to time, but when it comes to the big wigs I stay in my lane. You should try that. You are only making yourself look childish by making the comments you sometimes do. I am very proud of my time even though it isn't the best yet. I just want to enjoy the moment without someone saying "he's not the fastest, he's been beaten by a few people." That's not even true. Doug and I have always gone back and fourth especially lately. We are eachothers competition. We happen to be really close friends too so when I see folks typing crap about him it ticks me off. At his age and position he should not be bashed, but encouraged. His intentions are always good. Boost Solutions has a lot of strong cars rolling out of their shop and they deserve some respect. All the clowns that used to work their are long gone and only professionalism remains. I really love that shop and I hope they remain in business for years to come. If you have a fact to post than post it. People are just getting tired of all the BS comments and opinions. How can you make a judgement at all on this subject if you don't even have cams. I experience my cams on a daily basis. I believe that my opinion counts a little considering my experience with them in my car. Not too many people start crap anymore so why not stop. We all own EVOs and all love them and all want them to perform. For Pete's sake let's learn from eachother and have fun. We all are imperfect people living in an imperfect world. I am defensive of my cars performance at this time because I'm proud of it cause if you knew my car you would know that it's always broke for one reason or another. Right now my rear syncro is going so I get to rebuild my tranny with Doug and George's expertise of course. My vote is still 272/264 and I'm holding strong.

Matt

 

I don't have a problem with Doug's tuning, nor do I have any experience with his tuning. As far as cam experience, you don't have to own every set to know the pros and cons of each. My entrance in this thread had nothing to do with Boost Solutions at first, but rather my opinion on 272/264 cams. In reality as several results above showed, the differences aren't vast.

Read this part, because it is important: The reason I personally do not want a 272 intake cam is because I don't want to compromise my idle. George stated that it will idle rougher than 272/272. I've seen a lot of cammed Evos and learned one constant: Todd's car is the only 272 intake car I've been in that idles that close to stock. Knowing my luck, my car will be one of those that idles like shat.

Tuning and technical aspects of the mechanics of these car fascinatess me, and I have a lot to learn about the subject. I know more than I did, but still have awhile to go. Everybody does. Never at any point did I claim to have even close to the same experience as Doug.

I'm use Vishnu parts because I very much like what I've received for my money. I believe in Shiv because I know he's a good tuner. Really, our main differences lie in this paragraph.

I don't see myself in the 11s for quite some time, because I have more money to allocate to other things, and can't that much to my car. I'd like to, but its not feasible at this time. But understand because I don't have an 11 second car doesn't mean my opinion on cam duration, intercoolers, and other hardware is invalid.

Have a good night with Ryan and the crew. Good luck attaining your goals.


Seth

 

When you guys say that the idle is rough with aftermarket cams, what do you mean? Does the engine stutter and stall?

 

Instead of your idle purring smoothly, it'll go lumpity lump while making your whole car vibrate a lot more.

 

For a turbo car it make more sense to have a higher intake duration than exhaust. My vote is for the 272/264 for the EVO. Call Comp Cams or any Cam company and ask which is better for a turbo setup and u will get almost the same answer of a higher intake duration than exhaust. So if u really want to run 272 on the exhaust then go with something larger than 272 if avaliable for the intake. For the thread starter, dont worry too much u made the right choice.

 

LOL, your so right Guack007, we love torque so we LOVE lift and generaly go with Piper as they go all the way to 12.5mm!!!!! also they have a much better (read more aggresive) profile and thus shortter duration. in all a better cam. and as most of the guys over here go for standalones so there is no idel issues, and it lets them get the most from them. (someone hit the bell again before you all start on me for that last comment!)

but there seams to only be a few vendors on here that recognize how good these and others (inc. JUN and Tomie) are compared to the HKS. it will chance in time (i hope)!

thanks Chris.

 

Thanks!
George

 

Hi Chris,

exactly! The bigger lift intake cam makes the huge amount of torque in the low and midrange. And you still keep the same topend as the 272/272...

George

 

as far as the Idle goes I think mine is ok. some dont even know that I have cams in my car. My 2$

 

Yeah, the 272s are good, they are not that aggressive. The 272/264 on a piggyback is just CRAZY. It lopes like a V8. I like that though

On a standalone, they idle like stock though:-)
George

 

This has been a very informative thread

 

George what is the ETA on the DYNO results?

 

Doug is working on the transfercase today so it will be a few more days.