This goes out to all those electrical expertz that can hand out some wisdom. If anyone has hooked up a turbo timer (HKS Type 0 in this case, personally installed) and an aftermarket alarm (Clifford 550 G5 Senor stereo installed). Both are installed and functioning flawlessly independtly, but what Im trying to accomplish like many other is to get them to work together. Ive done some research but its still confuses me because all of those applications are on other cars and different scinerios. Could someone give me a detailed "how to" on setting this up, mainly just how the relay should be configured. I have the wiring harness for the HKS so if that helps.
I.E. - Shut car off, turbo timer activates and starts counting down, leave car, arm, walk away, car shuts off as normal, happy me!
Thanks, your the best!

 

For the alarm, tap the ignition wire from the alarm into the accessory wire in the car instead of ignition. That way, when the TT is counting down (supplying power to the ignition circuit), the alarm will think the car's off, and allow you to arm it.

 

Hrmm is it that simple? Is this a reasonable way of doing? I dont mean to sound doubting but I just want to make sure I get this right... screwing with ignition/accessorie wires isnt something I want to mess up. Thanks for the reply

 

I don't know about this specific alarm but in general you always connect a certain wire to +12v so that you cannot activate the alarm when the engine is running. Find that wire and connect it somewhere where you have +12v when the engine is running but not when the key is turned off and the timer is activated. I actually think that the accessory circuit is also running as long as the timer is counting so not sure you can use it.

I actually connected this wire to the parking light circuit, in that way you could only activate the alarm when the light was switched of regardless if the engine was running or not. Maybe not the best solution but it worked for me.

This was on my EVO6, on the EVO7 I have no timer and I have realised that it has an automatic light switch so if I have the low beam on and turn off the car the light will automatically switch off a second or so after the door is opened, do you have the same feature on your EVO8s? This shouldn’t affect the possibility to use the parking light though.

Anyway, who installed the alarm in your car? You should probably ask them for help? At least they should be able to point out the correct wire for you and probably help you solve the problem as well.

 

Doesn't that Clifford G5 have a turbo timer built in? I have a Matrix RS 3.5, and I use that as my turbo timer. Works great and no extra clutter or conflicts.

 

No, the accessory circuit should not be getting power when the timer is active. The timer's job is just to keep the car running, not power accessories like the radio, etc. It has a wire that connects to accessory, but isn't powered by the timer.

The ignition circuit only requires a +12v. This can be obtained from the ignition circuit or the accessory circuit. Sure, the correct way listed in the manual will be to use the ignition circuit. But it's just +12v. The difference between the accessory and ignition is mainly that the accessory circuit cuts out when the key is in the start position, so things like radio, AC, etc won't be draining the battery when the car is trying to start.

What will be affected by moving the alarm ignition wire to accessory? The alarm will think the car is turned off when the key is in the start position. This might affect your power door locks if they are set to lock when the key is turned on, assuming you hold the key in the start position for a long time. And the alarm won't be able to arm when the key is in the ACC position, which you wouldn't want anyway. The doors will no longer unlock when the car is turned from IGN to ACC, but now they will unlock when the key is turned to the OFF position.

 

Needless to say this is a clear example of the confusion on this subject. I have a feeling its just the nature of the beast and all the different variables but I know there must be a clear and clean method of performing this. Keep up the discussion!!!!

 

You could use the key sense circuit to determine the power going to you alarm.

Standard Bosch relay:

85: +12v constant
86: - key sense circuit (assuming our cars have a - key sense wire)
30: to car ignition circuit
87: to alarm ignition wire
87a: not used


You could use the parking brake to inturrupt the ignition signal, too. The point is, there are probably 100 ways this could be done "correctly". The first way I mentioned is the easiest.

 

Can someone confirm the:

86: - key sense circuit (assuming our cars have a - key sense wire)

Thanks

 

Just found out that it won't work like that. Our key sense rests at negative with the key out, and goes open with the key inserted. There are wire colors here along with a diagram of turbo timer + alarm: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=48351

 

Thats a winner!!!! You the man... Wish I could have found that without asking, but thanks again.