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-   -   Forge wastegate actuator or Buschur's high boost wastegate actuator (https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/evo-engine-turbo-drivetrain/245883-forge-wastegate-actuator-buschurs-high-boost-wastegate-actuator.html)

DSMEVO15 Jan 16, 2007 07:03 PM

Forge wastegate actuator or Buschur's high boost wastegate actuator
 
hey guys i need some help in deciding which wastegate actuator to go with.. i have a Evo 8 with 20g evo 9 turbo, alky kit and all supporting mods (tbe,intake,buschur tb,fmic,ams intake mani.,etc.. the list goes on).. what do you guys think.. i havent really seen or heard a lot about both of them.. can anyone help me out???.. im leaning more towards buschur... but wanna know more about forge so i can compare.. anyone have either of the wastegate actuator that can help me out??? Thanks

tuning g Jan 16, 2007 07:05 PM

I like the forge it is servicable and the craftsman**** is out of this world we have used it and had no problems.

ccbremech Jan 17, 2007 04:14 PM

i am in the exact same situation as you and i have been doing my research. the forge wg looks a little bit better but then you have to tell yourself its also buschur and they have awesome parts... i am actully leaning towards the forge one too becuase the buschur wg holds 22 to 23 all day and will not go lower. im not sure i would like to be right around 20 sometimes becuase i drive my car to work every day and 23 kills my gas mileage. im not sure what the forfe wg holds but i figure its more than stock.ne one know what it holds consistenttly?

raiceboi697 Jan 17, 2007 08:48 PM

a friend of mine has the forge and his holds 18 psi all day long. with the wastegate holding thou. it only holds boost when you hammer the car it wont let you sit at 22/23 psi with no load on the engine.

dsmfan95 Jan 18, 2007 05:38 AM

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DRFTKNGG Jan 18, 2007 06:05 AM

Love my FORGE unit. No taper, rock solid boost pressure!
Also the guys at FORGE have the best customer service! I am using the new IX actuator and it is awsome!

deadbeatrec Jan 18, 2007 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by ccbremech (Post 3872376)
i am in the exact same situation as you and i have been doing my research. the forge wg looks a little bit better but then you have to tell yourself its also buschur and they have awesome parts... i am actully leaning towards the forge one too becuase the buschur wg holds 22 to 23 all day and will not go lower. im not sure i would like to be right around 20 sometimes becuase i drive my car to work every day and 23 kills my gas mileage. im not sure what the forfe wg holds but i figure its more than stock.ne one know what it holds consistenttly?

right now i have the buschur 20g-9-5 with the high boost actator. u can not go any lower than 22 psi or so, so that sucks but who go any lower than 22 psi around here. the only reason i like the forge is just that, its forged. i have seen the stocklike wastegate break under pressure b4. so keep that in mind.

~EVILEVO~ Jan 18, 2007 07:40 AM

The forge wastegate is one of the finest made parts on my car. hands down.

Mike@Forge Jan 18, 2007 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by ccbremech (Post 3872376)
i am in the exact same situation as you and i have been doing my research. the forge wg looks a little bit better but then you have to tell yourself its also buschur and they have awesome parts... i am actully leaning towards the forge one too becuase the buschur wg holds 22 to 23 all day and will not go lower. im not sure i would like to be right around 20 sometimes becuase i drive my car to work every day and 23 kills my gas mileage. im not sure what the forfe wg holds but i figure its more than stock.ne one know what it holds consistenttly?

The actual amount of boost our actuator will hold on a given application will vary based on numerous factors, but it's ability to hold boost is far superior to any pressed-steel unit.

- Preload on the turnbuckle at the end of the actuator arm
- Spring used in the unit
- Boost controller settings
- Supporting modifications
- etc......

...... will all affect the boost output of the turbo.

With all of the proper supporting modifications, most owners of our actuator using the Red (19-24PSI) spring are seeing a base actuator output (without a boost controller) of around 20-21 PSI. Adding a boost controller, depending upon the settings used, are resulting in much more sustainable boost levels.

Slightly quicker spool may also result, and while some tapering will always exist, since you must operate within the efficiency range of the turbo, tapering is greatly decreased.

Example:

If you were previously seeing spikes to 25 PSI and tapering to 20, our actuator, once installed and the boost controller settings modified, would probably result in a 25 PSI spike and a taper to only 23 PSI.

DSMEVO15 Jan 22, 2007 07:23 PM

anyone else with their opinion???

kouzman Jan 22, 2007 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Mike@Forge (Post 3874355)
Example:

If you were previously seeing spikes to 25 PSI and tapering to 20, our actuator, once installed and the boost controller settings modified, would probably result in a 25 PSI spike and a taper to only 23 PSI.

This is the reason why i ordered it today!!! :D :D

I control my boost levels with a Hallman manual boost controller (bov connection method). Pump gas i have 23psi, which immediately after the spike drops to ~21psi and tapers all the way down to ~17.5psi towards the redline... Hope to cure this "problem"... If i manage to keep 21-23psi on the high revs i will be very happy... and the car will be even stronger...

Inprogress Jan 22, 2007 08:07 PM

I'll be ordering a Forge one soon too...sucks to be impatient

kouzman Jan 22, 2007 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Inprogress (Post 3890775)
I'll be ordering a Forge one soon too...sucks to be impatient


tell me about it... i always want more, and more, and more, and more... :D :D :D

MRevolutionRed Jan 22, 2007 08:30 PM

warr needs to chime in on this one

Sap12687 Jan 22, 2007 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by MRevolutionRed (Post 3890869)
warr needs to chime in on this one

No he doesn't.


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